Are there any countries/places you wouldn't visit out of principle? (1 Viewer)

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This is inspired by dear Lewis Goodall being called out for planning new year in the Faroe Islands due to treatment of whales and dolphins.

Not so much about not visiting for safety, although of course there's some overlap, e.g. for countries that aren't LGBTQIA+ friendly.
 
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Anywhere BLUE.

Also anywhere Mary Charpin Carpenter is playing.
 
I've never understood the fascination with Dubai either. I'd go if it was free though.
 
I would love to say I'm DISCERNING but the last two places I went to are almost certainly run by THE FASH.
 
I've stopped over in Dubai once, I mostly recall how hot the airport was 😅

I would say America (United States) haha, at least the majorly red states
 
Honestly I'm not sure I'd go anywhere that may be a bad look for me
 
Though I'm going to continue to go on vacation to Florida
 
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I don't really understand Dubai either. Someone in my year at school lives there, and he was a twat, so that continues to confirm my thoughts.

To add a different flavour, I can't see myself ever visiting the Canary Islands or the Maldives. Places which are basically sandy holiday camps aren't my bag.
 
Dubai, Saudi, Qatar - FORGET IT
I don't see myself going to Russia but not because of Putin/Ukraine or anything. it just looks miserable.
 
I'm adding the Caribbean to the list above. Anywhere I'd feel nervous booking a double bed with my same sex partner basically.

I have a gay friend who went (Aruba I think) and said it was fine but I'd still rather not have it in the back of my mind.
 
And The Gambia to add to the discussion (also hated Dubai when I spent an unplanned overnight stay there due to a missed connection’).
 
I don't really understand Dubai either. Someone in my year at school lives there, and he was a twat, so that continues to confirm my thoughts.

To add a different flavour, I can't see myself ever visiting the Canary Islands or the Maldives. Places which are basically sandy holiday camps aren't my bag.

We went to the Canaries a couple of years ago for a few days, it was good for that and no more. I couldn't spend two weeks there.
 
ALL THE EUROPEAN PIGS THAT REFUSED TO RESPECT THE GLORY OF DANA INTERNATIONAL'S DING DONG
 
Hmm. I've forever been hampered with an innate curiosity about everywhere, and my once-fervid idealism has given way to increasing pragmatism in old age. Plus, having lived under problematic governments my entire adult life, it's hard to take a 'principled' stance on these things. I also question the extent to which the West has cause for claiming a moral high ground atm (if it ever did). I used to find myself legitimately appalled when swanning through the expat bubbles and finding women who'd lived in Riyadh or gays/lesbians who'd spent a year in Manama or sth, to the point where I'd openly judge and condemn those choices. Nowadays, I'm more like 'if you can make it work for you, fair enough.' Though I still think they're MAD - and grotesquely money-driven to boot.

The only places that I embargo in my head are North Korea and Israel. There are a number of other nations I'd avoid purely for self-preservation. I once ventured over to pre-war Tigray where I roomed with a guy whose onward travel plans consisted of the following: Somalia, Yemen, Syria, Iraq, and Afghanistan. Bucket lists that basically box-tick the misery of others is one thing I can deem to be against my principles. I often wonder if he's still alive.

I've long had an aversion to the Arab world and esp. Muslim-majority petrostates but even that's changing these days. Transiting in the Middle East is the norm whenever I want to get farther afield. I had to spend 24hrs in Doha for that reason a few months back (luckily a good friend lives there). Came off the plane bedraggled and carrying the weight of thousands of subjugated Brown/Black migrant workers on my shoulders, looking for excuses to start confrontations with any Qatari that dared cross me. But everyone was beyond polite for the entire stay, nipping all my pent-up aggression in the bud. I'm gonna have to repeat that same trick in Dubai in a few weeks' time. Old, moral-absolutist me has always holed himself up in the (crap!) airport because #values despite the fact that I have friends there who've been imploring me to visit for years. Current me has less of an issue with stepping out and seeing what's around, even if it's anathema to everything I am (as Doha was). Never in my life would I consciously choose to visit such locales, but I'm generally overwhelmed by the kindness and humanity that exists in even the most demonised corners of the world so I'll keep an open mind.
 
Honestly at this point in my middle aged homosexual life and with climate change on my mind and trying to limit flights anyway, it would be a far easier for me to say which countries I am WILLING to travel to...and it would be a short list.
 
I would probably avoid the entire middle east. I don't like sand.
 
I'm also in the Dubai group. I see absolutely nothing appealing about it both in culture and scenery.

I wouldn't really be interested in any middle eastern country or anywhere I felt unsafe being female/in a lesbian relationship.

Having said that, we did go to St Petersburg a few years ago which I wasn't excited about and it turned out to be one of the most incredible places I've ever been.

No real interesting in India but I'd go if someone paid.

I also have never seen the appeal of America. Canada I'd like.

We looked at doing a cruise to the Faroe islands and almost booked it until we realised it coincided with their annual whale killing so we refused to go.

When Mandy and I book any holiday we always do a bit of research on their gay rights and animal cruelty. After going to Cyprus and seeing the huge amount of strays and cruelty towards animals, I'm very wary of where we go now.

And although we don't walk around publicly kissing or acting like a couple, I don't want to go somewhere where I feel very unsafe because I'm with her.


On a side note, I once got told that you're one of two people, you either want to visit Australia or you want to visit America. I'm definitely the Australian side because I've been twice and am already planning a third trip.
 

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