Eurostats 2024 (1 Viewer)

[Devil]

I imagine Olly may just about trouble the arse end of the chart again this week based on iTunes sales - he's still #6 there.

#34 in the midweeks, as he has physicals as well and is around #50 on Apple and Amazon. These midweeks don’t include the above streams though so he may hang top 40 tomorrow but I’d guess #50 or so by the weeks end.

Quite the disaster.

 

[Devil]

How does this compare to last year? Olly’s position is abominable. Mae managed a top 10 hit and she was a nobody!

Much worse all around. In saying that, streams overall have exploded the past few weeks with Taylor, the rap diss songs, Sabrina, Post Malone etc. Loreen’s sales last year at #2 would only have got her to about #8 in last weeks chart for example, so it’s going to just magnify the fall overall.

But add in the somewhat negative surroundings and the fact we hosted last year, it was always going to be lower. I’d say Nemo should end at least close to the top 20 in Friday’s chart and another 3 to 4 top 100 at least which isn’t bad.

 

[Sheena]

Someone in my Mum’s care home today shouted “nil points again, Europe hates us” at me as I walked in.

Despite my protestations otherwise, everyone around her just agreed.

Sigh.

 

[Soldi]

We were at least left side with the juries

 

[Kratz]

Someone in my Mum’s care home today shouted “nil points again, Europe hates us” at me as I walked in.

Despite my protestations otherwise, everyone around her just agreed.

Sigh.

It’s surprising how prevalent this is. My own mother said the same thing and she is usually a bit more insightful. I pointed out that we very nearly not two years hence.

The BBC really don’t do us any favours do they

 

[lolly]

 

[VoR]

 

[Penelope]

POOR BRAVE Apollo

 

[HalamaK]

Switzerland's jury scores in context with other jury winners of the past decade

365 84% Switzerland 2024
363 80% Sweden 2015
340 79% Sweden 2023
382 78% Portugal 2017
320 65% Australia 2016
283 60% United Kingdom 2022
271 54% Austria 2018
267 59% Switzerland 2021
224 52% Austria 2014
247 51% North Macedonia 2019

Perhaps the new qualification system, combined with the homogeneity of jury composition, is inflating the jury gap.

 

[Penelope]

What exactly does the % figure represent for each of those...?

(separately - why would the new qualification system have an effect on gaps between televote and jury scores for the jury winners? It makes it less likely there'll be a jury winner that qualified entirely on the strength of jriy support in the semis, but pretty much every jury winner would have always qualified under the old system anyway - and it's not as if jury selection has become more homogenous than it was before?)

 

[HalamaK]

What exactly does the % figure represent for each of those...?

Percentage of the maximum possible score.

 

[HalamaK]

(separately - why would the new qualification system have an effect on gaps between televote and jury scores for the jury winners?

The obvious answer is that it eliminates some jury bait in the semis to the benefit of televote fodder. As all qualifiers will have some televote support the competition for those points intensifies. However, there's an even more momentus hidden shift.

it's not as if jury selection has become more homogenous than it was before?

I feel it has. Most countries are represented by juries like these now:

The points from the United Kingdom. Meet this year’s jury members:

• Alex Larke – Represented the United Kingdom at Eurovision 2015 as part of Electro Velvet
• Beanz – Represented the United Kingdom at Eurovision 1995 as part of Love City Groove
• Debby Bracknell – Backing vocalist for the United Kingdom at Eurovision 2018
• Katrina – Winner of Eurovision 1997 with “Love Shine A Light”
• Yves Cueni – Backing vocalist for the United Kingdom at Eurovision 2021 and Finland at Eurovision 2018

You can tell they were scraping the barrel for anyone that would say yes

The Swedish jury consisted of Robin Bengtsson, who represented Sweden in the Eurovision Song Contest 2017, football player Boris René, Melodifestivalen host Per Olsson, 'Grytan' backing singer Elin Trogen, and songwriter Annie Berg.

 

[Dark Carnival]

Percentage of the maximum possible score.

Is it me or does that not work? Sweden 2023 wasn’t the televote winner and how could it get 79% of the maximum possible score when it was behind Finland?

 

[ZenGiraffe]

Is it me or does that not work? Sweden 2023 wasn’t the televote winner and how could it get 79% of the maximum possible score when it was behind Finland?

I mean, if one country got every 12 they would have 100%, and if the country afterwards got every 10 they'd have 83%.

 

[HalamaK]

Is it me or does that not work? Sweden 2023 wasn’t the televote winner and how could it get 79% of the maximum possible score when it was behind Finland?

My mistake. It's jury scores, not televotes.

 

[VoR]