Eurovision 2024: Malmö Arena (1 Viewer)

I suppose cutting the flag parade and bringing back the fifteen minute interval surely cuts back about half an hour at least.
 
The presentation of the votes isn’t the problem and is the last thing that needs cutting down. It’s the reason most people watch it in the first place!
 
Yes, there's nothing wrong with how the scores are presented. I'm here for a more snappy interval, but everything else is fine.
 
Yes, so perhaps just leave as it is. If SVT's recent MF 'innovations' are anything to go by, they are not. a safe pair of hands.
 
We can absolutely lose a good 20 minutes from the interval, and 10 minutes from the opening. The flag parade is one thing, but the first song wasn't on until 20 past this year.

If you look at the televote announcement in 2016, it's way snappier, so maybe they'll go back to that.
 
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I do find it quite amusing though that most of the "innovations" that are stretching the show out are in there thanks to Sweden, whether it's the flag parade, the vote presentation, the hour of intervals or the two-minute presenter links to allow massive boxes to be brought on stage - ALL SWEDEN.
 
Madíson said:
Just prerecord the entries, make a YouTube playlist out of them with no ads, let everyone watch for the week before the contest, and the live show can be a man opening an envelope telling us that Sweden won.

No encore.
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Cutting the number of songs in the grand final is the easiest way to shave time off the running order. Have the top 8 qualify from each semi so it’s 22 countries in the final. I think 26 is a lot and the public get fatigue. That’s about 20 minutes saved. Also, with making it harder to qualify it makes the stakes much higher and the semi finals become more exciting so to qualify you really need to be good and not just okay.

Bin the elaborate opening and go straight to the flag parade. That’s maybe 10 minutes saved. Make the invernal act 15 minutes max. That’s another 20 minutes saved.
 
In fairness, I know we’re all happy with more Eurovision, but it is a LONG show for the casuals (ie. the majority of the viewership) to sit through, ending after 1am in most of Europe and clocking in at about 4 hours 15 minutes this year.

It’s not that long ago that 3 hours 30 minutes seemed like it was wildly overrunning so I’m sure the efficient Swedes can get the running time back down without it seeming like a huge loss.

The Malmö contest was 3 hours 26 minutes and that had a flag parade and three interval acts. Somewhere along those lines is possible and wouldn’t hurt too much in terms of quality.

Then over the next few years it’ll inevitably drift upwards again until Sweden wins and cuts it back down to size. :disco:
 
The interval is far too fucking long.

It didn't drag this year as much as I was with friends, but other years it's been AWFUL.

Last year seemed to go on forever.
 
Kala said:
Cutting the number of songs in the grand final is the easiest way to shave time off the running order. Have the top 8 qualify from each semi so it’s 22 countries in the final. I think 26 is a lot and the public get fatigue. That’s about 20 minutes saved. Also, with making it harder to qualify it makes the stakes much higher and the semi finals become more exciting so to qualify you really need to be good and not just okay.
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This is without a doubt the last idea they should look at to trim time, and would surely only lead to more withdrawals when countries who are already on the fence end up finding it even harder to qualify.
 
I'm not opposed to the final being shortened slightly, but I don't know if that's something I necessarily want in a Swedish hosted contest of all years, when they tend to bring it with the interval acts (which is where I think the most time saving can be made).

And if they did manage to cut it down by as much as an hour, I would like the ticket prices to come down in line with that. JUST SAYING.
 
Jacques said:
This is without a doubt the last idea they should look at to trim time, and would surely only lead to more withdrawals when countries who are already on the fence end up finding it even harder to qualify.
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I’ll respectfully disagree on this. If you can only squeeze 9th or 10th in the semi final then you’re really only making up the numbers in the final and beyond a certain point there’s just too many songs. People just begin to lose interest after a certain number.

By making it harder to qualify it makes the stakes much higher and more unpredictable. Most people with any common sense could have predicted the top 10 people there or thereabouts but if you cut that to the top 8 then it becomes harder. This is a competition and it would be all the better for it if the final wasn't so bloated with songs that no one cares about. Look at the points the public give. Loads of songs barely getting any points.
 
Yeah when you’re at a point where there’s only 37 countries competing you wouldn’t do something that would tempt even more out.
 
Kala said:
I’ll respectfully disagree on this. If you can only squeeze 9th or 10th in the semi final then you’re really only making up the numbers in the final and beyond a certain point there’s just too many songs. People just begin to lose interest after a certain number.

By making it harder to qualify it makes the stakes much higher and more unpredictable. Most people with any common sense could have predicted the top 10 people there or thereabouts but if you cut that to the top 8 then it becomes harder. This is a competition and it would be all the better for it if the final wasn't so bloated with songs that no one cares about. Look at the points the public give. Loads of songs barely getting any points.
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We're not arguing it would be a worse program Kala. This would undoubtedly result in a few countries withdrawing as the Grand Final viewership is significantly worse for countries not qualifying.

I'm thinking SVT wants to trim some interval fat to make room for more countries participating.
 
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I suspect SVT will push for enrolling all broadcasters into a single ESC voting app. That would save a lot of time behind the scenes which in turn could lead to a leaner show.
 
If it was a top 8 per semi, here’s what we’d have lost over the past five Contests.

2018
Ieva - When We’re Old (Lithuania)
Saara Aalto - Monsters (Finland)
Sanja & Balkanika - Nova Deca (Serbia)
AWS - Viszlat Nyar (Hungary)

2019
Tamta - Replay (Cyprus) 🙀
Zena - Like It (Belarus)
Jonida Maliqi - Ktheju tökes (Albania)
Leonora - Love Is Forever (Denmark)

2021
Hooverphonic - The Wrong Place (Belgium)
Tix - Fallen Angel (Norway)
Senhit feat. Flo Rida - Adrenalina (San Marino)🙀
Anxhela - Karma (Albania)

2022
Marius Bear - Boys Do Cry (Switzerland)
Systur - Med haekkandi sol (Iceland)
WRS - Llamame (Romania)
Nadir - Fade to Black (Azerbaijan)

2023
Mimicat - Ai Coracao (Portugal)
Luke Black - Samo mi se spava (Serbia)
Alika - Bridges (Estonia)
Albina Kelmendi - Duje (Albania)


A mixed bag, but on the whole ABSOLUTELY NOT.
 
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