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It’s usually the most simple explanation. It took too long and they had to reschedule it one too many times that they decided it’s not worth it/there won’t be enough interest.

Of course, and logically this makes a lot of sense.
But there's totally been other stuff going on between the women - SOMEBODY was selling those rumours and counter-rumours to Radar Online as one example :eyes:
 

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Ramona and Luann's relationship really is the centerpiece of the series. They're NEVER on the same team :D But they know each other so well, they make magic every single time.

Their sincere conversation about Ramona's divorce was BEAUTIFUL...and then Luann tells her that she saw Mario on a dating site :D Best TV frenemies ever.
 

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Bethenny goes on a bit of a problematic and transphobic rant at the start of her latest podcast. Yikes.

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I think Heather is really shitty for telling the Sonja/cigarette story to that book.

HOWEVER some of the gossip from the book is FABULOUS, even if I've heard some of it before I'm always happy to hear it AGAIN.
An insane Housewives queen typed up all the juiciest stuff per franchise on Reddit, I will try and find it :disco:
 
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NYC gossip from the BOOK, copy and pasted straight from Reddit :D

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Bethenny chose not to participate but damn, she is a fucking LIGHTNING ROD of controversy

Carole and Jill say a lot but really come across as unreliable narrators. Carole seems angry and Jill is uhhhh contradicted on quite a few of her statements.

They actually found Ramona at her friend's audition and then begged her to do it. Jill was friendly with her but not super close.

Jill found Luann at a premiere of Sicko by Michael Moore and gave her name to producers.

Alex and Simon were trying to do some preschool show but then were cast

The whole not filming to sabotage someone thing was started by Jill and Bethenny with KKB. B hated her prior to filming. Producers thought it was like a more legit Page Six name. Little did they know...

According to Jill, Bethenny wanted everyone to think she was "poor." JILL WE KNEW BETHENNY WAS NOT ACTUALLY "POOR." Like, ffs I do not think B ever pushed the narrative that she was struggling financially???

During S3 withthe Jill- Bethenny feud, apparently Jill was an absolute nightmare to work with. The producers were like "This is going to look bad," and she did not care. It got really difficult to work with her. Producers were apparently begging her to make up with B.

KKB is sticking by everything she has said about everything. But my favorite part is "Of all people, you don't want to attack Gwyneth Paltrow! She's not an attackable person." GIRL HAVE YOU SEEN THE INTERNET??

** see other comment for scary island tea**

Jill and Luann thought they could tank the Scary Island trip by not going

KKB says she broke up with her boyfriend prior to the episodes airing bc she couldn't put him through that

Apparently ALex and Simon were real trolls after being fired, Simon started some website and Alex started a blog. Andy says he has never since that behavior since.

Jill's firing was a nightmare (which is known) but it is confirmed she has been desperate to get back on the show ever since. To this day, she doesn't understand her firing. She calls every single season and blows up everyone's phone so much so that they would joke about her hiding in the bushes.

Aviva was barely hired full-time for S6 and then Bookgate Happened (Ramona had heard that rumor too)

Luann S5 was a nightmare, which is why she was demoted. She would call producers at 2 am to let them know she was not going to film the next day LMAO

Carole is still VERY BITTER about everything. So much so that it comes out in ALL of her interviews. She is still very angry with Aviva, Luann, Bethenny, and Andy. Has nothing nice to say about apart from Heather.

So I know there is all this kerfuffle about Bobby's funeral but apparently Jill's rep called the network when Bobby died to let them know she was open to filming his funeral. Ramona, Luann and Dorinda went but did not want cameras. Bethenny went but she (according to Carole so who knows) "set up her own filming."

The money is fake with Tinsley and they all knew that. She had to stay with Sonja because she could not afford another place and was desperate to find a rich man.

The B/Carole feud: From what I gather, Carole pulled away from B bc she was in LA with her friend. B was gunning for Tinsley, so when Carole befriended Tinsley, B was miffed. I think all the ladies are very paranoid that B gets some "special treatment," and Carole got paranoid that she was getting the last word, so she became an absolute nightmare to production. The network had decided on her firing for this reason prior to the reunion.

Andy and Carole got into a fight after she got fired, because her statement was about leaving a toxic work environment. She told him never to speak to her again, and she hasn't.

Andy and Heather (who is still friends with Carole) both say that she show changed her towards the end, and not in a good way.

Luann starts talking about Bethenny helping her with "As much as Bethenny likes to tear me down" LMAO LU.

B had a sticking point in her contract that resulted in her not coming back. Andy knew they weren't going to figure it out months before then, but the cast was told a few days before.

In Newport, apparently there was a lot with Leah's sister that did not air, like her flipping out at Ramona and Sonja. Leah was apparently fucked up the entire weekend too, like during the day, etc.

Tinsley became very secretive about her life when it came to Scott, because he would dump her like every week. Production let her leave even though she offered to finish the season. Dorinda is not apologetic about being so mean to her, which sucks.

Andy/Production is very open to Dorinda coming back, but they all agreed that she needed time off, and said it was about the drinking. But they are all baffled about her sticking by her comments to Tinsley.

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The Scary Island tea was interesting. Apparently what they aren't saying is that Kelly was screaming a producer's name over and over "Matt, Matt, Matt, Matty, Matt, Matt", and then the producers were getting annoyed they actually couldn't film, so she was sent to her room. Sonja says she was afraid for her life so she slept in Ramona's bed. Not sure if that is Sonja being dramatic, but the vibe I get is that producer's definitely felt that a line had been crossed with Kelly's mental health and they were all calling each other because of it. Two producers had to stay in her room with her. They say that nothing like that has ever happened since.

Heather - “I took Sonja out of a vestibule where she was letting guys put lit cigarettes in her vagina”
 

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Sorry but what IS this book? I feel like I've missed a post somewhere!

A writer from People magazine (who is best friends with Rinna and Kim’s sister and fabricated homophobic abuse on Twitter) has written a Bravo endorsed book about The Housewives Franchise with interviews from some of the ‘wives and it’s causing CHAOS :D
 

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I follow him on Twitter, what’s the fabricated abuse about?
 

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He posted an email (that was quite obviously a draft) with homophobic abuse and threats he said he received and then it was suspiciously shared over Rinna, Kyle, and Teddi’s insta at the same time with the same wording :eyes: Then when he was called out and someone pointed out that faking hate crime is a criminal offence he deleted everything and locked his account. :D
 
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I'm sorry but nothing in that summary is even REMOTELY interesting!

I DISAGREE in that I found these NUGGETS quite :D

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Jill's firing was a nightmare (which is known) but it is confirmed she has been desperate to get back on the show ever since. To this day, she doesn't understand her firing. She calls every single season and blows up everyone's phone so much so that they would joke about her hiding in the bushes.

Luann S5 was a nightmare, which is why she was demoted. She would call producers at 2 am to let them know she was not going to film the next day LMAO

So I know there is all this kerfuffle about Bobby's funeral but apparently Jill's rep called the network when Bobby died to let them know she was open to filming his funeral. Ramona, Luann and Dorinda went but did not want cameras. Bethenny went but she (according to Carole so who knows) "set up her own filming."

Andy and Heather (who is still friends with Carole) both say that she show changed her towards the end, and not in a good way.

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From browsing Reddit THE BOOK seems to talk about Jill quite a lot, who really does seem like an absolute complete and utter NIGHTMARE.
 
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So here we have it: the reason the reunion was cancelled was due to Eboni VS Ramona. (TMZ is deffo the most reliable of the gossip sites),
There was also a formal complaint of racism against Ramona from a member of production.
Ramona was cleared of both complaints as they couldn't find sufficient evidence.

https://www.tmz.com/2021/10/29/rhon...racism-claims-eboni-k-williams-ramona-singer/

Interesting Luann is pretty much left out the equation, as there were rumours her and Eboni were feuding behind the scenes.
 
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And reading between the lines - for a cast AND production member to make a formal complaint against another cast member, that then lead to a proper internal investigation must mean that the allegation(s) were relatively serious for them to take it so seriously.

It certainly doesn't look GREAT for a Ramona return, cleared or not (but then we all thought that about Michael Darby :basil:)
 

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Clearly then they can't both return. I predict Ramona will be a friend of, and not have any scenes with Eboni. Eboni out the next season with Ramona back in full time

Or they'll just cancel the whole thing.
 
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This much-mooted 'time off' for Dorinda must have run its course by now. I'm hoping the producers are slowly circling Bluestone Manor, contracts in hand.
 
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When/if Dorinda does return, I hope the show embraces reality/breaks the fourth wall a little bit and tackles Dorinda’s alcoholism head on as her solo storyline. It would just be BIZARRE if they ignore it, and if any Housewife has the gravitas to carry such a storyline off it’s Dorinda.

Amazing there’s never really been a serious look at alcoholism on Housewives. Shannon on OC is the closest I can think of, and that’s mainly in JEST.
(Oh and Kim Richards obviously, but that well runs DEEP!)
 
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And why is the show not filming classic New York moments like this :D

Luann in particularly seems to be living the ridiculous life a Real Housewife should at the moment. NEVER COUNT OUT THE COUNTESS :kim:
:D this is brilliant! I genuinely can't tell if she's trying to get a selfie with him and he's completely ignoring her, or if she has no idea who he is and is trying to just get a selfie of herself. :disco:

I know which version of the story I prefer!
 

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Rumours are swirling that Ramona and Sonja are the only returning cast members for season 14.
 

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