The Environment ft Global Climate Change (1 Viewer)

I read some scientist sounding the alarm in the i and suddenly I feel quite alarmed about everything - there is no way we're going to keep cooling below 1.5c. probably it will hit 2c by the end of this decade.

and how, realistically, can any single government anywhere really do anything when governments change every 5 years, climate targets are dictated by industry and the elite class, and most ordinary people are more bothered about being able to afford to live in the present than about global warming and the future? how can any of this ever be addressed with wealth inequality what it is, and becoming more extreme by the day?

we're just fucked, right? but I don't think anyone realises to what degree. I really wouldn't be surprised if in 10 years there are no seasons anymore and mass food shortages everywhere... and here we are allowing the big talking points to be whether we phase out petrol cars by 2030 or 2035.

I can only defer to jojo's climate change anthem

 
COP 28 in Dubai seems like it was mostly a toothless bust due to the pernicious influence of Big Oil lobbyists, but I'm sure they'll right the ship on the next one in *checks notes* Azerbaijan.
 
Happy Xmas (VoR is Over!) said:
COP 28 in Dubai seems like it was mostly a toothless bust due to the pernicious influence of Big Oil lobbyists, but I'm sure they'll right the ship on the next one in *checks notes* Azerbaijan.
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the previlance of gulf oil money and soft power in so many aspects of western life now — sport, politics, climate policy — is really very disturbing.

it's a fucking outrage that the Saudis will host the 2034 World Cup. there's almost no footballing culture at all in the UAE. their own heavily financed league is a big budget flop. these decisions are being made purely for money and influence, and I really don't know how we're just standing by and letting it happen.

Cop28 was such a sham that the president was literally caught denying climate science. everybody knew it was never going to lead to anything fruitful. half of the delegates in attendance were fossil fuel lobbyists. why go through this charade? time is running out!
 
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Jark Frosty the Snowman said:
the previlance of gulf oil money and soft power in so many aspects of western life now — sport, politics, climate policy — is really very disturbing.

it's a fucking outrage that the Saudis will host the 2034 World Cup. there's almost no footballing culture at all in the UAE. their own heavily financed league is a big budget flop. these decisions are being made purely for money and influence, and I really don't know how we're just standing by and letting it happen.

Cop28 was such a sham that the president was literally caught denying climate science. everybody knew it was never going to lead to anything fruitful. half of the delegates in attendance were fossil fuel lobbyists. why go through this charade? time is running out!
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The utter failure of the Saudi Pro League (so far) is a delight. Who would have guessed over paying a bunch of has beens and never weres wouldn’t be a winning formula?
 
Whilst I’m not sure it’s the right decision to host the World Cup there either (albeit that for certain contractual reasons I cannot and will not therefore denounce this decision personally :D ), I vehemently disagree that a “lack of footballing culture” is a reason to discount a place as a host. It’s for that very reason that we should choose such places to promote the global reach of the sport in these areas. It’s the same thing happening in athletics and why they are trying to spread out the hosts more globally.
 
When I said acouple of years ago that I believed humans would think their way out of a total catastrophe, its stuff like this I had in mind.

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A UK startup says it can refreeze the Arctic

Welsh startup Real Ice is working on technology that it says could refreeze parts of the Arctic ice and boost its thickness.
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So simple, so clever.
 
30°C in Germany yesterday, one city didn't go below 20°C overnight.

Beating the old record for first day above 30°C by 9 days.
 
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The best bit about the BBC report was this:

“Some newspapers had claimed local residents were annoyed the climate protest was taking place on the hottest day of the year so far, potentially making it harder for people to reach the beach in The Hague.”

Like, REALLY? 🤦🏻‍♂️
 
Guardian scare story with all the climate scientists essentially saying we're fucked if we carry on the way we are (and well, no reason to believe there will be the level of change necessary until everything is collapsing around us and by then the ship is already going towards the iceberg faster than it can stop) didn't do my mental health any favours for a day or so. At least until I realised it's essentially the same story they always do.

Every year lately just seems to be more "oh shit it's hitting the fan a lot faster than our worst case predictions"

Same eventual calming as usual - have hope in science and maybe even AI, do what we can individually do our tiny drops in the ocean and hope they add up into something more substantial (much like a vote), and know that whilst the world is full of greed (always will be imo even if you replace capitalism) it's becoming more and more profitable to do climate saving things so the greed can probably be "weaponised" to save ourselves.

Fingers crossed, can't say for sure what the future holds. Live for the present and enjoy shit before it possibly ends, without just throwing your hands in the air and going nuts as if it's inevitable. Bit like the balance between living and saving for the future I guess.
 
Already very bored of all the people losing their shit over the Just Stop Oil protest at Stonehenge, when what they've used will almost certainly be entirely harmless and gone the next time it rains.
 
It’s stood for 5000 years I don’t think some hippy with a bag of coloured pigments is going to destroy it.
 
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Already very bored of all the people losing their shit over the Just Stop Oil protest at Stonehenge, when what they've used will almost certainly be entirely harmless and gone the next time it rains.
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But they're all very passionate about RARE LICHEN you see.
 
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