Katy Perry - 143 (Worst Rated Album EVER by a female artist)

Can Katy turn things around and snatch a hit?

  • yes, unconditionally

  • sure, it's never really over

  • maybe, by the grace of god

  • potentially, she's a dark horse

  • probably not (self-inflicted)

  • no, now she's just a ghost


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Because targeting criticism at Katy (or any of other passengers) is futile and maybe even counter productive.

If people really do have ethical objections to Bezos' insane space shit, the criticisms MUST be aimed at him. He will otherwise simply continue what he's doing with different human shields.

Those rocket launches were happening irrespective of Katy Perry's involvement. She says no, we simply end up with Carrie Underwood EVIL in space instead, or perhaps no celebrity whatsoever and there's even less media attention on Bezos' shenanigans.

Quite! Nobody moaned when rich white men were doing it really isn’t an excuse!
 
In conclusion, you can still make fun of her! Just don’t be a horrible cunt about it.
yes but who has? what shee initially took objection to - the very thing that sparked these two pages of back and forth - was a KC post asking: "can she ever be taken seriously again?"

which feels - a, a somewhat reasonable response to Katy Perry going to space and flashing a butterfly with tour dates on it to camera and b, very much not like bullying or cunt-calling.
 
yes but who has? what shee initially took objection to - the very thing that sparked these two pages of back and forth - was a KC post asking: "can she ever be taken seriously again?"

which feels - a, a somewhat reasonable response to Katy Perry going to space and flashing a butterfly with tour dates on it to camera and b, very much not like bullying or cunt-calling.

I never took issue with that post at all. It was dramatic overreaction, yes, but I just questioned the concept, I didn’t “take objection” to it in the slightest.
 
the amount of bad faith arguments and shameless backtracking being made in this thread is actually fucking insane and well below the general intellect level of moopy.
 
a reminder that on the last page @VoR actually said he feared the backlash to this is so severe that it could push Katy Perry to far-right extremism!

like... what's going on? are some of you ok?
 
the amount of bad faith arguments and shameless backtracking being made in this thread is actually fucking insane and well below the general intellect level of moopy.

WHAT?

OR MAYBE YOU’RE JUST WRONG? :D
 
For me the line is pretty straightforward.

Making fun of her for releasing a bad record or saying/doing something cringeworthy - fine if it's funny and in a lighthearted spirit. I've already listened to some genuinely funny takes on this Space trip, which WAS very stupid and cringe.

Calling her a cunt or singling her out as some worse than hitler moral monster every time she does anything in public - Not fine.

Belatedly quoting, solely to bump this because this remains the most sensible take in this sorry saga.

It's OK to giggle at SEXY CONFIDENT but still not think Katy Perry should be held accountable for stranded astronauts or the sun melting. That's not hypocritical or bad faith.
 
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yes but who has? what shee initially took objection to - the very thing that sparked these two pages of back and forth - was a KC post asking: "can she ever be taken seriously again?"

which feels - a, a somewhat reasonable response to Katy Perry going to space and flashing a butterfly with tour dates on it to camera and b, very much not like bullying or cunt-calling.

Again, I can’t speak for Shee, but I genuinely wasn’t referring to anybody in this thread! It’s not backtracking - I can’t help it if SOME QUEENS appear to have relentless main character energy!


a reminder that on the last page @VoR actually said he feared the backlash to this is so severe that it could push Katy Perry to far-right extremism!

like... what's going on? are some of you ok?

Again, I was attempting to make a broader point about the way toxic online culture backs people into a corner. Perhaps I didn’t articulate it well, but I don’t think it’s a particularly deranged thing to posit.
 
I just think sometimes a person’s desire to make a point is stronger than the point they’re making.
Sorry Told You GIF by Janet Jackson
 
I just think sometimes a person’s desire to make a point is stronger than the point they’re making.

And I think sometimes people’s need to ridicule someone else’s opinion trumps their own logical reasoning so HEY HO.
 
I was going to say that's top of the list of songs I never want Katy Perry's vocals to touch, but actually it does fit the theme of her being a WINNER, a CHAMPION, a MOTHER, a SISTER, a KILLER OF SISTERS, and SO SOFT SO STRONG, all at the same time

Exhausting!
 

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