US Election Day 2024: Polls Open and Results

Final Prediction: Who Will Win?

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Lucille said:
Sorry this argument is SO DUMB! As if the swing in those 3 states doesn’t EXIST IN THE CONTEXT of the swing right nationally.
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I mean it’s not dumb at all… it’s completely factual.

It’s hardly like the Tories going from 43% to 23% of the vote. THAT’s a landslide victory.

The system makes small changes look massive.
 
Nevada finally called for Trump. Just Arizona now.
 
Wins by 4% in Nevada and 6% ahead in Arizona. Neither massively close in the end.
 
I will be really interested to see how many people split their ticket and voted Trump and then democrat down-ballot, and how many voted for Trump and didn't vote at all down-ballot.
 
Lucille said:
Wanna meet the New Yorker who voted Trump/AOC.

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It’ll be some dreadful libertarian whose main priority is “keeping the government out of their pocket” and who votes for whoever appears to be the least “establishment”. They will not actually understand what any of those things mean.
 
ZenGiraffe said:
I will be really interested to see how many people split their ticket and voted Trump and then democrat down-ballot
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It's like I've been trying to tell you all. Nobody likes Kamala Harris.

A lot of people who voted Trump don't necessarily like him or even the GOP, the policies or anything else. It's just no-one wanted or could imagine an incompetent waste of space like Harris running the country and I don't blame them one bit. The numbers in blue states tell you everything you need to know.
 
I don’t understand the whole system, but from what I read it was like 70m vs 67m in votes for them, despite however each state is worked out. Is that about right for the actual core votes?

In which case how is this a landslide? To me it is very similar to the Brexit percentages and indicates a country very much split in half more than anything else?
 
Nowoco said:
It's like I've been trying to tell you all. Nobody likes Kamala Harris.

A lot of people who voted Trump don't necessarily like him or even the GOP, the policies or anything else. It's just no-one wanted or could imagine an incompetent waste of space like Harris running the country and I don't blame them one bit. The numbers in blue states tell you everything you need to know.
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:manson:
 
Nowoco said:
It's like I've been trying to tell you all. Nobody likes Kamala Harris.

A lot of people who voted Trump don't necessarily like him or even the GOP, the policies or anything else. It's just no-one wanted or could imagine an incompetent waste of space like Harris running the country and I don't blame them one bit. The numbers in blue states tell you everything you need to know.
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Oh fucking SHUT UP.
 
ZenGiraffe said:
Oh! We had to ban them from the Adele thread for being misogynistic!

That tracks.
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It wasn't for being misogynistic, it was for the crime of saying I didn't like Adele the person.

I'm not even sure what people are getting angry at, I'm literally reporting facts.
 
Devil said:
I don’t understand the whole system, but from what I read it was like 70m vs 67m in votes for them, despite however each state is worked out. Is that about right for the actual core votes?

In which case how is this a landslide? To me it is very similar to the Brexit percentages and indicates a country very much split in half more than anything else?
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It's a "landslide" because Trump got every state that was in contention, and will have the senate and possible the house too.

But 2 percentage points or so in the other direction would have given all 7 to Harris.
 
I wouldn't have expressed it quite like that but before Biden stepped down, I recall many people saying that Harris was clearly not up to being president. And this is without mentioning her very well-funded failure in the 2020 primaries.

She's popular among partisan centre-left Democrats (as I imagine any other candidate would be) but I don't believe she has much crossover appeal. It's hard to see her becoming the nominee in any other circumstance than the way she did.
 
Mugatu said:
I wouldn't have expressed it quite like that but before Biden stepped down, I recall many people saying that Harris was clearly not up to being president. And this is without mentioning her very well-funded failure in the 2020 primaries.

She's popular among partisan centre-left Democrats (as I imagine any other candidate would be) but I don't believe she has much crossover appeal. It's hard to see her becoming the nominee in any other circumstance than the way she did.
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Her approval ratings shot up when she became the nominee and people actually got to see her, and she ended up with better approval numbers than Trump. She lost despite how likeable she was, really.

Would she have become nominee in a primary? I'd probably say she wouldn't, but I think her being useless and unlikable is just over exaggerated right wing nonsense, and if you were to identify any one individual who caused her loss, it is still Biden.
 
I think her biggest problem is that she’s a UK style politician, in that she would come into an interview situation with a stock set of answers and was absolutely reluctant to veer from them. Hence the word salad accusations.

That just doesn’t work in the USA any more. It’s a shame because I think she probably is quite fun and likable offstage, and she had moments where that really came through, but she just couldn’t unlearn a career of being unwaveringly guarded and on-message.
 
Yes. It's quite the HOT TAKE to declare someone ELSE unlikeable when you're quite OBNOXIOUS yourself.
 
*Posts almost nothing on here that isn't praising women*
*Gets called sexist and misogynistic*

This is why I don't like talking politics 🥹
 
I really don't think "likeability" was the characteristic voters were focusing on when picking their choice.
 
jivafox said:
It’s just hard to take seriously when the other person is DONALD TRUMP!
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I want to preempt this (I feel I have to do this a lot in this thread) by saying I am NOT a Trump fan at all.

But Trump is extremely likable to a lot of everyday people. He's funny on stage, always speaks his mind (rightly or wrongly), reads the room well, has catchphrases, is extremely patriotic.

All things Americans lap up. Whatever you think of him, standing up after nearly having his head blown off and shouting "fight" was brave and courageous. Wearing the high-viz in a dumptruck after his supporters were called garbage was hilarious. At both ends of the scale, he delivered exactly what people wanted. He plays the game so well.

I understand why so many people find him unlikable but I also understand, and some here seem to not, why he IS.
 
GNL said:
She always comes across as very warm and personable to me, even as someone who isn't impressed by her as a politician.
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But apparently standing on stage and threatening every minority going should be easy to understand as LIKEABLE!

No I don’t get it and hope I never will.
 
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