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More bad news for Labour...
What was it? tbh I'm not surprised, the options were appalling.That turn out is ATROCIOUS
Forgone conclusions don't attract votersHow the hell did Shaun Bailey do so well?
42.2%What was it? tbh I'm not surprised, the options were appalling.
Shaun Bailey is a fucking moron. Such an awful candidate. Every single thing he said in the campaign highlighted his utter incompetence.
Imagine what would have happened if they'd nominated someone competent.Shaun Bailey is a fucking moron. Such an awful candidate. Every single thing he said in the campaign highlighted his utter incompetence.
He's truly worse than that clown.I remind you this is a position Boris Johnson won twice.
I'd like to think that if the opponent had been, say, Justine Greening, that Labour's vote would have been more likely to bother going to the polling station.Imagine what would have happened if they'd nominated someone competent.
I'm on Sky News. Why are they they showing Lib Dems and Other for Scottish Parliament, when the greens were already bigger than the Lib Dems and have only increased their numbers? They can FUCK OFF
Probs threatened to nuke them if they didn't complyThe all powerful Lib Dems with their connections. Jo Swinson is obviously secretly in control of Sky
Up north maybe but down South less so. Look at Cambridgeshire and swings in places like SurreyI'm genuinely slightly surprised the Greens aren't bigger than the Lib Dems in England yet. They feel like such an irrelevance.
My brother was telling me he heard someone from Hartlepool on the radio saying he'd voted Tory because the Tories gave them 9 food banks and Labour never gave them a single one. There is no fighting this level of stupid.
Although there was an older woman from Hartlepool on there who said she couldn't understand the logic of feeling deprived and ignored and then voting for the people who've deprived and ignored them for the last 11 years. I like her, she can live.My brother was telling me he heard someone from Hartlepool on the radio saying he'd voted Tory because the Tories gave them 9 food banks and Labour never gave them a single one. There is no fighting this level of stupid.
The thing with Labour is, WHERE is the stronghold? Where HAVE they improved on their result? Even in London it was a LOT closer than expected.I do think Labour need to give up on fighting for the former Red Wall in much the same way that the US Democrats don't put as much effort into former strongholds like IOWA and OHIO any more.
Demographics change. Move with it, instead of having an endless fucking existential freak-out about it.
Yup. Their obsession with pandering to the morons is a lost cause. Focus on the educated classes, which is the line most modern political division lies. Become modern and absorb the current left wing social issues.I do think Labour need to give up on fighting for the former Red Wall in much the same way that the US Democrats don't put as much effort into former strongholds like IOWA and OHIO any more.
Demographics change. Move with it, instead of having an endless fucking existential freak-out about it.
This. Focus on Wales and Cornwall for a start, because they did very well in those areas. Focus on the North West, West Yorkshire, the Midlands, East Anglia and London as well. They've an opportunity to consolidate or convert with some attractive (any) policies.I do think Labour need to give up on fighting for the former Red Wall in much the same way that the US Democrats don't put as much effort into former strongholds like IOWA and OHIO any more.
Demographics change. Move with it, instead of having an endless fucking existential freak-out about it.
The only person to vote for him, was likely himself.Rev. Robbie The Radical Recyclist must be devastated tonight.
They've just had their best ever local elections in Wales, so start there.The thing with Labour is, WHERE is the stronghold? Where HAVE they improved on their result? Even in London it was a LOT closer than expected.
Oh! I didn’t knowThey've just had their best ever local elections in Wales, so start there.
Understandable. The BBC aren't about to report any of the good things Labour have accomplished, are they?Oh! I didn’t know![]()
But still, surely they just can’t count on Wales in a general election? I mean Blyth Valley and then Hartlepool going to the tories doesn’t spell GOOD NEWS for the left in the north east.They've just had their best ever local elections in Wales, so start there.