Chappell Roan - Good Luck, Babe

Stop having sensible discussions and get back to slagging her off!

The NERVE!
 
I was broadly sympathetic to her on the whole Chappell Moan thing, but she absolutely deserves the pasting she’s getting for this. Talk about tone deaf.
 
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VoR said:
I was broadly sympathetic to her on the whole Chappell Moan thing, but she absolutely deserves the pasting she’s getting for this. Talk about tone deaf.
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again... not really. I think I might need to stop reading this thread for my own mental health because it's alarming the way you all keep looking for reasons to throw her under the bus.

here's the full quote from Billboard (maybe you could look beyond whatever snippet of a quote pop crave is serving with transparently bad intentions once in a while?)

“I have so many issues with our government in every way. There are so many things that I would want to change. So I don’t feel pressured to endorse someone. There’s problems on both sides,” Roan explained.

“I encourage people to use your critical thinking skills, use your vote — vote small, vote for what’s going on in your city.”

She says she most wants to see a change in trans rights in the U.S. “They cannot have cis people making decisions for trans people, period,” said Roan.
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While Roan’s quote to The Guardianresulted in backlash on social media from fans who expect her to publicly endorse Harris over Donald Trump, given Harris’ pro-LGBTQ+ stance, the quote alone can easily be taken out of context. Roan has been clear about her values in words, performance and actions.


On tour, Roan invites local drag artists to be her supporting act, and as The Guardian reports, “For every U.K. tour ticket sold, £1 goes to the LGBTQ+ rights charity Kaleidoscope Trust, and at the merch stand in Manchester there are signed risograph prints selling for £100, with proceeds going towards aid for Palestine.”
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At Gov Ball she dedicated her song “My Kink Is Karma” to the administration. “We want liberty, freedom and justice for all,” she said. “When you do that, that’s when I’ll come.”

In August Roan urged people to make their voices heard, telling Rolling Stone, “Right now, it’s more important than ever to use your vote, and I will do whatever it takes to protect people’s civil rights, especially the LGBTQ+ community. My ethics and values will always align with that, and that hasn’t changed with a different nominee.”
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if you're going to keep taking a controversy-baiting pop culture account as your primary news source, I can see why you might have the wrong impression of her. but she's thoughtful and considered, politically active, gets behind trans and lgbtq+ causes, stands for the rights of people in Gaza and isn't endorsing one candidate as an anti-endorsement of the opposition, which seems very fair to me.

but yes! what an evil cunt!!!
 
It is bullshit like this Pop Crave wank that made me leave Twitter. Baity selective quoting is pathetic and there needs to be a pause to reflect on why some of these people are so keen to destroy her whilst mindlessly stanning her Disney trained counterparts.
 
I don’t really see how the longer quote absolves her? It’s great that she’s such a staunch LGBTQIA ally, but she’s still both sides-ing and implicitly equating Harris with Trump which is extremely dangerous and irresponsible, not to mention dumb.

I know you seem to have a pathological need to aggressively shame every criticism of a female pop star @Jark, but sometimes they do actually say and do stupid things that merit criticism!
 
vote small, vote for what’s going on in your city
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It's a presidential and congressional election. One side wants to restrict women's rights nationally. It's still a cowardly position she's advocating in that fuller quote.
 
octophone said:
It is bullshit like this Pop Crave wank that made me leave Twitter. Baity selective quoting is pathetic and there needs to be a pause to reflect on why some of these people are so keen to destroy her whilst mindlessly stanning her Disney trained counterparts.
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but! but!!! she didn't endorse Kamala and all popstars must be moral north stars who tell us who to vote for!!! it matters so much what they think because they effectively live in bubbles and have no real world knowledge of politics! how can we rest until all of them have endorsed Kamala?!!?!
 
If anything the longer quote makes me think she’s probably a Jill Stein weirdo.
 
Jark said:
but! but!!! but she didn't endorse Kamala and all popstars must be moral north stars who tell us who to vote for!!! it matters so much what they think because they effectively live in bubbles and have no real world knowledge of politics! how can we rest until all of them have endorsed?!!?!
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If she said nothing about politics at all, we wouldn’t be having this conversation. But she’s evidently making political statements at a time when she holds a lot of sway with a younger audience, and ergo those statements merit scrutiny. To pretend otherwise is just to infantilise her IMO.
 
Jark said:
but! but!!! she didn't endorse Kamala and all popstars must be moral north stars who tell us who to vote for!!! it matters so much what they think because they effectively live in bubbles and have no real world knowledge of politics! how can we rest until all of them have endorsed Kamala?!!?!
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Saying nothing is an option, and if she doesn't want to show a preference for one presidential candidate then that's what she should have done
 
Also if she has been viciously misquoted then she presumably can’t be unaware of how it’s been interpreted, so she could speak out and correct the record at any time.
 
I think she reflects a lot of people in her age group who will vote for Kamala but aren't enthusiastic about it.
 
OT: But Iguana and I noticed the other day that the "Good Luck Babe" bits sound exactly like the DUH-DUH-DUH-DUH bits from the Proclaimers and the song is now firmly ruined for me.
 
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OT: But Iguana and I noticed the other day that the "Good Luck Babe" bits sound exactly like the DUH-DUH-DUH-DUH bits from the Proclaimers and the song is now firmly ruined for me.
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Do a mash-up. Ruin it for EVERYONE.
 
Tisch said:
OT: But Iguana and I noticed the other day that the "Good Luck Babe" bits sound exactly like the DUH-DUH-DUH-DUH bits from the Proclaimers and the song is now firmly ruined for me.
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If it helps, it doesn't particularly.
 
This is like when I read about the persistent triangle dink that runs through The Bangles’ Eternal Flame. :(
 
It's not even a real triangle. I;d be far more forgiving if someone stood there and did it for a full take.
 
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