The Israel-Gaza war and wider Middle-East tensions

Good luck with that last part!
When Israel was founded, almost no Arab states recognized its legitimacy. Governments are inherently self-interested, and Israel has gradually gained increased recognition from several Arab states over time.

If Israel takes and holds on to more land in Lebanon, Gaza, and the West Bank, it could use that as leverage in future negotiations for recognition once things settle down. This strategy has been in place since Israel's inception and has proven effective for them so far.
 
I think Israel's goal, or at least part of it, is to return to normalization with Saudi Arabia etc. I don't know if people understand how monumental that would be, and WAS GOING TO BE, for the Middle East.

If anything, if Israel is able to defang Hizbullah - and therefore cripple Iran's hold near the Mediterranean - it would make normalization even more attractive to Saudi Arabia.

This is why Iran cannot afford to keep stalling if a ground operation happens.
 
I dunno, as I see it Saudi Arabia's beef with Iran has grown more urgent and existential than its beef with Israel.
 
Iran and KSA have been in a defacto war for years via Yemen, I'm not sure a few buildings in Lebanon tips them over the edge.
 
When Israel was founded, almost no Arab states recognized its legitimacy. Governments are inherently self-interested, and Israel has gradually gained increased recognition from several Arab states over time.

If Israel takes and holds on to more land in Lebanon, Gaza, and the West Bank, it could use that as leverage in future negotiations for recognition once things settle down. This strategy has been in place since Israel's inception and has proven effective for them so far.
This makes no sense.
 
Do you know what a bunker is?

The number of times you’ve moaned about being attacked in this thread when you claim to have done nothing wrong.

just pointing out that you’re incredibly patronising without cause to long standing members of this community.

Nothing worse than people who jump into a fight and then play victim. No wonder you love Netenyahu so much.

Just fuck off and go chat to people who agree with your bullshit. Here you’re just a waste of html.
 
And while we’re ranking international terrorists, Netanyahu has still killed more innocent people than anyone this year and is more unpopular at this point than Kim Jong Un

Yeah, such a success…
 
No one has expressed this sentiment
I see some people on here are quite sad that Nasrallah is dead. Poor them. :whistle:
 
And while we’re ranking international terrorists, Netanyahu has still killed more innocent people than anyone this year and is more unpopular at this point than Kim Jong Un

Yeah, such a success…
The last year on record, 2022, there were 22,000 deaths due to terrorism.

Highest recent peak was 33,000 in 2018.

The death toll in Gaza in the past year is at least 40,000. Netanyahu and the IDF are very successful terrorists by deaths caused

 
It's cute that you believe the numbers provided by Hamas.

It's also cute that you count terrorists along with civilians.

It’s like a merry go round. The numbers are not from Hamas.

Hamas have quoted 100,000 deaths.

There are many independent health workers, journalists and humanitarians on the ground who all claim this to be an act of unspeakable cruelty by a world leader.

Your dismissal of it speaks to your own cruelty, stupidity and unfortunate brainwashing.

My sympathies. Not that it will ever change you. Clearly incapable of that.
 
It's so tiring to watch people throw basic logic and common sense in the bin just to maintain a position, no matter how untenable that position becomes.
 
I think the mod team might have to review their policies on people who spread propoganda on moopy.

This person doesn’t contribute to any other areas of the site. There are other people in this thread who have expressed the complexities of this conflict from the perspective of Israel in a far more articulate, intelligent and far less deranged manner than this dipshit.

Can we just ban for good please.

If not, I completely understand, but if so can I be banned from this thread instead.

Ta x
 
That's a major escalation. Hizbullah is likely to launch a serious attack on Israelis now. They're gonna need more than just the Iron Dome.
 
Reminds me of a place I know...

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You are welcome to visit the Pop Divas section. :)

And please ban yourself from this thread if you can't tolerate different POVs.
75% of your posts are about Israel. Another 20% Cher and then a couple about Girls Aloud. Oh and that's factual. 151 out of your last 200 posts were related to Israel.

So aside from about 1/4 of your posts your content on here is provocative posts about Israel on a site predominantly against Israeli aggression.

How cool are you?
 

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