funky's journey through the 90s (again, again) (1 Viewer)

I chiefly remember that Heart track as being a STORY SONG, only the story makes NO FRIGGING SENSE when you pay attention to the lyrics.

"Vision Of You" was the only Belinda Carlisle song from the "Runaway Horses" album to peak outside the top 40 in the UK, stalling at 41, hence why it's quite forgotten about. Shame as I agree it's a lovely song, quite heartbreakingly sad actually.
 
The story of how Roxette broke into the US market is amazing, shame things like that are unthinkable today :square: Their success was immediate, The Look debuted so high in the Hot 100 (#50 I think), it was unheard of from a new artist (forget about Swedish), it even got an article or a mention on Billboard, can't exactly remember (I was recently reading old Billboard magazines to make a very intrincate pop quiz, that's why I know, I'm human). Their chart run, with 5 top 2 songs in a row, is quite something. Everything went downhill with the change of the methodology compiling the Billboard charts in late november 1991. You can tell how the new system affected to a few more pop artists, as helped some others (many r&b artists).
 
You are not even mentioning some of my favourites, but then I probably have 95% of them in my collection, this was such a fantastic year, don't listen to Ag. I expect a forthcoming mention to the first proper Spanglish hit single (well that was actually La Raza but didn't break the top 40) that it's the story of a couple that were actually siblings, INCEST in the charts :disco:
 
Well feel free to contribute! This has been an educational journey for me, not a sharing of expertise so I'm always happy to keep learning the reasons why certain songs did well and others didn't. There's so much music I'm probably still missing stuff even now. But I'm not really mentioning the really obvious stuff unless there's history or trivia behind it.

Just don't cover it until I get to the corresponding month :disco:
 
You're doing a good recap and I don't want to fill this with too much shit, but if you don't mind I'll add the additional lost gem (or pure shit that I just love).


I have to mention Whole wide world by A'me Lorain, that out of nowhere peaked at #9 in April or May. From the totally fogotten movie True Love, this one hit wonder is a guilty pleasure. Obsessed with the Asian woman totally high in the video :disco: I found the album in a bargain bin in London. The pretentious title: Starring In...Standing in a Monkey Sea - A'me Lorain & The Family Affair.. well it's HORRENDOUS :D just pure noise, except for the follow up that didn't even had a video an flopped.

But WWW is :disco:

 
I probably wouldn't have given that more than a few seconds :D

Although, while she's clearly going for the Debbie Gibson / Tiffany market (maybe a couple of years too late) there's something very pre-Britney about her, perhaps even moreso than the others!
 
You're doing a good recap and I don't want to fill this with too much shit, but if you don't mind I'll add the additional lost gem (or pure shit that I just love).


I have to mention Whole wide world by A'me Lorain, that out of nowhere peaked at #9 in April or May. From the totally fogotten movie True Love, this one hit wonder is a guilty pleasure. Obsessed with the Asian woman totally high in the video :disco: I found the album in a bargain bin in London. The pretentious title: Starring In...Standing in a Monkey Sea - A'me Lorain & The Family Affair.. well it's HORRENDOUS :D just pure noise, except for the follow up that didn't even had a video an flopped.

But WWW is :disco:


WOW I totally forgot about this

Now I have to download it!
 
I probably wouldn't have given that more than a few seconds :D
Can't blame you for that.

Ok I'm travelling now and I don't have time to check stuff, and honestly I don't remember the exact month of some entries, so maybe they're coming, but I'll be back with stories about outrageous plagiarism, incest, the debut of a later-to-be husband of a well known singer (it went to #1 in the US) and more hot shit that I don't think it's well known.
 
don't listen to Ag.
Just my opinion. Much of the early 90s leave me cold, although much of that is from my music consumption as a 10-12 year old, which was limited. I'm always reinvestigating old music (although I think I've broken the Spotify algorithm) and finding new treats. However due to the passing of time, they don't have such a connection with a specific point of time. That Kym Mazellle track I was talking about before could have been, 1987, 1990, 1993...
 
Just my opinion. Much of the early 90s leave me cold, although much of that is from my music consumption as a 10-12 year old, which was limited. I'm always reinvestigating old music (although I think I've broken the Spotify algorithm) and finding new treats. However due to the passing of time, they don't have such a connection with a specific point of time. That Kym Mazellle track I was talking about before could have been, 1987, 1990, 1993...
Don't take it personal! I know you're much more into eurodance that didn't really break until 93, so I totally get it, but just let me post shit about this year, one of my favourites in music (for personal reasons too).
 
Don't take it personal! I know you're much more into eurodance that didn't really break until 93, so I totally get it, but just let me post shit about this year, one of my favourites in music (for personal reasons too).
Oh go wild. I'm just contributing, because I like the topic. I'm sure I'll have something more positive to say at some point!
 
You're doing a good recap and I don't want to fill this with too much shit, but if you don't mind I'll add the additional lost gem (or pure shit that I just love).


I have to mention Whole wide world by A'me Lorain, that out of nowhere peaked at #9 in April or May. From the totally fogotten movie True Love, this one hit wonder is a guilty pleasure. Obsessed with the Asian woman totally high in the video :disco: I found the album in a bargain bin in London. The pretentious title: Starring In...Standing in a Monkey Sea - A'me Lorain & The Family Affair.. well it's HORRENDOUS :D just pure noise, except for the follow up that didn't even had a video an flopped.

But WWW is :disco:


I had never heard of this before :disco: This would have been right up my street.
 
I chiefly remember that Heart track as being a STORY SONG, only the story makes NO FRIGGING SENSE when you pay attention to the lyrics.

The lyrics are TERRIBLE. I think the group has basically disavowed it despite it being one of their biggest hits.

I’m not a huge Heart fan, but I do really love There’s The Girl. UNDERRATED.

 
I don't even care for early Snap!, and they were europop titans.

I’ve also been finding some Italo and piano house deep cuts that I’ve either never heard of or only ever heard on mixtapes from back in the day and completely forgot about. I’m sure you’ll enjoy some of those when I get to them!

1990 moves FAST. The start of the year is all Mike & The Mechanics and Richard Marx and by the end of the year N-Joi and Prodigy are hitting the UK charts…
 
June 1990

#1s


VOGUE –•– Madonna (3 weeks from May)
HOLD ON –•– Wilson Phillips (1 week)
IT MUST HAVE BEEN LOVE –•– Roxette (2 weeks)
STEP BY STEP –•– New Kids On The Block (3 weeks into June)

So Wilson Phillips finally did it, with "Hold On" hitting #1 in early June with their debut single. Interesting that they only held on for 1 week, although Roxette were a runaway train at this point and had the fuel from the Pretty Woman movie behind them here as well. Another bit of quirky trivia is that we were only a month removed from the potential glitch of the top 2 positions having the same song title, which I'm sure would have been the first and only time, as En Vogue were about to peak at #2 in early July with THEIR debut single. 2 girl groups, debuting with the same song title at the same time at the top of the charts? What are the chances?

WP actually hold many records and distinctions from that debut album, including THREE number one singles (personally everything else from that album apart from "Hold On" is bland as fuck, apologies if others don't agree) which is some sort of record or joint record I believe, and - in something that is becoming a bit of a trend for the period - don't really sustain their success for very long. Wiki tells me that the first album went 4xP and the follow up only went 1xP, no further album was certified. Also after the first album and 4 Top 10 singles, they didn't hit the Top 10 again. I wonder if they were also victims of @Alla's theory on US chart methodology? The PLOT THICKENS!

Janet Jackson has a wobble this month as "Alright" ONLY peaks at #4. FLOP ERA!

One thing I prefer about the US charts is that they don't have as much of a stomach for novelty songs. Didn't the Ninja Turtles song go to #1 in the UK or am I imagining that? Anyway they peak at #13 in June as Turtle-mania sweeps the globe.

Discoveries:

Taylor Dane
hits the Top 10 again with "I'll Be Your Shelter".



This is a great song. And she's so pre-Anastacia isn't she? To the point where Anastacia is basically cosplaying her 10 years later. Taylor Dane always felt like one of those acts that was made for the US market but doesn't translate as well for the UK for whatever reason. See also: Amy Grant.

I don't recall paying much attention to this follow up to "Got To Have Your Love" at the time, but this is great from Mantronix!



More Soul II Soul offshoot loveliness!



This is from 1989 but I assume it's the Morales remix that put it into the charts in 1990



Babyface goes 2 for 2 on his breakout second album with another bouncy bop:



You really can hear his fingerprints all over the slew of R&B boybands that were about to emerge in the coming months.

Notable chart entries:

June 2

73 — VISION OF LOVE –•– Mariah Carey
91 — MAKE YOU SWEAT –•– Keith Sweat

June 9

88 — COULD THIS BE LOVE –•– Seduction

June 16

71 — MY KINDA GIRL –•– Babyface
91 — DON’T YOU LOVE ME –•– 49ers

June 23

67 — I DIDN’T WANT TO NEED YOU –•– Heart
71 — EPIC –•– Faith No More
86 — TALK TO ME –•– Anita Baker
94 — THE EMPEROR’S NEW CLOTHES –•– Sinead O’Connor

June 30

40 — HANKY PANKY –•– Madonna
63 — HAVE YOU SEEN HER –•– M.C. Hammer
76 — RELEASE ME –•– Wilson Phillips
83 — CUTS BOTH WAYS –•– Gloria Estefan
87 — CLOSE TO YOU –•– Maxi Priest
92 — DO ME! –•– Bell Biv Devoe
93 — COME BACK TO ME –•– Janet Jackson
95 — A DREAMS A DREAM –•– Soul II Soul

So we're all in with debuts at the moment as Miss Mariah Carey has a go at this popstar lark. I wonder how she'll do?

A follow up to the smash "Touch Me" , I don't really remember this being released to be honest, but it's great. The 49ers have a 'greatest hits' on Spotify and it's worth a listen!



Sadly, Sinead didn't really have the right material to corner the US market effectively and her follow up single "The Emperor's New Clothes", despite the huge momentum, stalled at #60 (alternatively she had a further 11 Top 75 hits in the UK up to 2002, where this song went to #31).

I'm not a fan of reggae at all, but that Maxi Priest track (which to be fair is not really that reggae compared to the rest of his output) is fucking AMAZING. I love it so much.

That's an unusually low entry for Janet Jackson here; don't know whether it was on limited or part release until the following week. No matter it still eventually went to #2!
 
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Another bit of quirky trivia is that we were only a month removed from the potential glitch of the top 2 positions having the same song title, which I'm sure would have been the first and only time, as En Vogue were about to peak at #2 in early July with THEIR debut single. 2 girl groups, debuting with the same song title at the same time at the top of the charts? What are the chances?
The chances were actually close to zero, because it was only the second time in history that 2 different songs with the same title by different artists were in the top 10 at the same time. I remember them back to back at #5 and #6.

(If you wanna know in case you eventually take part in one of those Alla's impossible quizzes, the first time was quite recent, Don't be cruel by Bobby.Brown and Cheap Trick (a cover of the Elvis classic).

Coming.up later this year something more extraordinary happened with 2 songs, a first, I'll comment if you miss it. There are a lot of interesting and totally pointless trivia facts this 1990, anything but boring.
 
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WP actually hold many records and distinctions from that debut album, including THREE number one singles (personally everything else from that album apart from "Hold On" is bland as fuck, apologies if others don't agree) which is some sort of record or joint record I believe, and - in something that is becoming a bit of a trend for the period - don't really sustain their success for very long. Wiki tells me that the first album went 4xP and the follow up only went 1xP, no further album was certified. Also after the first album and 4 Top 10 singles, they didn't hit the Top 10 again. I wonder if they were also victims of @Alla's theory on US chart methodology? The PLOT THICKENS!
They were absolute massive in the US and broke every single record for a female group, even most weeks in a row in the top 40 with 33 weeks, which look ridiculous now but it was an achievement then. I don't believe they were affected by the arrival of SoundScan (we'll talk about it if you do 1991), i think the second album just didn't live up to the expectations. The first single, with them in sexy underwear in the video was definitely a choice, and the package of the album was a total horror. I believe some fans actually.went blind trying to read the illegible printing in light gold in the notebook, which upset them and quickly broke up.
 
Btw has anyone else heard about how the original album version of En Vogue's Hold On was NSFW and they actually sing "he'll want to fuck me"? Some people in a charts forum swear it's true, That place is insane but I'm on board with any crazy story :disco: i'll elaborate later.
 
"Alright" by Janet was just that, only alright, but the video was amongst her best.

"Turtle Power" by Partners In Kryme did indeed top the UK charts - for 4 weeks! Then, shockingly, they were NEVER HEARD FROM again.

Fully agree on that Maxi Priest song, what an incredible tune :disco:
 
July 1990

#1s

STEP BY STEP –•– New Kids On The Block (3 weeks from May)
SHE AIN’T WORTH IT –•– Glenn Medeiros & Bobby Brown (2 weeks)

That Medeiros/Brown collab is rotten. That must have really ruined Brown’s street cred after having a massive 88/89. In fact he never received the same level of success after this so I’m indeed blaming this song.

Johnny Gill was another big star of the New Jack Swing era and he enters the Top 10 with a fun bop “Rub You The Right Way”



I genuinely thought this was his breakout era but Spotify informs me that he was already a veteran at this point, having released 3 albums prior, with his debut as far back as 1983! I’m actually looking forward to hearing more from these acts throughout the 90s because many of them didn’t translate as well or for as long in the UK.

Depeche Mode climb into the Top 10 with "Enjoy The Silence". This feel like such an anomaly amongst the soft rock and R&B of the Billboard charts, as most new wave had long gone and this wasn’t even the poppy commercial end of new wave.

I can only imagine America trying to wrap its head around European dance music as “The Power” by Snap! climbs into the Top Ten as well. Black Box were probably a bit easier to digest with the obvious disco roots, but this heavily sample, heavily looped hip-hop dance hybrid must have been QUITE strange for the time. Both acts set the tone for a big takeover the next few years; perhaps not as big as the UK but far more successful tracks than I had expected.

By the end of the month, Mariah’s debut single “Vision Of Love” had climbed to #2 and Madonna had reached the Top 10 with “Hanky Panky”.

Over in the UK, they were much further ahead in the dance takeover with some great tunes charting and I do recall this was such a big revelation for me at the time, swapping mixtapes and going to ‘kiddy clubs’ (under 18s nights at local nightclubs) to throw some shapes. “Risky” by FPI Project, “Naked In The Rain” by Blue Pearl and “Peace And Harmony” by Brothers In Rhythm were all charting in July.

Discoveries:

I was only really familiar with the big early singles of Anita Baker, but these recaps have expanded her catalogue for me and if you’re into adult R&B / quiet storm, nobody actually does it better than Anita. This is the lead single from her 4th album Compositions, reaching US #44, US R&B #3 and UK #68. It’s gorgeous.



Another Soul II Soul decendant here, which I actually have no memory of from the time but it only reached #52 in the UK. It’s not on Spotify which is a shame:



Another song influenced by that sound is from a singer called Joanna Law who I’d never heard of, but apparently she had a minor hit (#67) in the UK with this trippy cover version and I absolutely love it:



That jazzy piano with the drum loop is SO 1990. It was her only hit, accept for her appearance on the Way Out West single “The Gift”.

US 80s girl group Klymaxx didn’t do much for me. They had 3 top 20 hits in the US but quite a few R&B hits, but by 1990 and the release of their 5th album they were on the wane. That album didn’t chart with any singles in the US but this track reached the lofty heights of #89 in the UK, and that’s where I must have discovered it during my pandemic chart deep dive. It’s a tune and a great find!



Due to my exploration of Heartland Rock in recent years thanks to its revival from the likes of Sam Fender, Paper Kites and The War On Drugs, this track stood out in the US charts (and at the same time I learnt that Bruce Hornsby actually had a career that went beyond that one song)



This reached #18 in the US and #85 in the UK.

Notable new entries (US):

July 7

n/a

July 14

n/a

July 21

58 — BLAZE OF GLORY –•– Jon Bon Jovi
92 — DIRTY CASH (MONEY TALKS) –•– The Adventures Of Stevie V

July 28

78 — CAN’T STOP –•– After 7

God what a DRY month. It was just loads of soft rock and metal nonsense. That After 7 song though is one of my favourite male swing songs EVER!

 
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Just having another listen to that Klymaxx track and I think you can hear traces of Madonna's sound from the Erotica album- @Suedehead what do you think
 
Johnny Gill was brought in to replace the lead singer of New Edition (Ralph Tresvant) after Bobby Brown was voted out of the group. He had been around for a bit but I believe the 3rd album is when he FINALLY hit.

I think the dance music in this era was taken pretty well here because MTV (which we ALL watched) played the videos all day and night.
 
By this point in time Klymaxx was out the door. If I remember correctly that album tanked and I don’t really recognize any of those songs.
 
I had a FEELING Johnny Gill had New Edition connections, but I thought I was just CONFUSING him with Ralph Tresvant. I didn't know that story and I didn't know Brown had been voted out :D clearly there's a drama there worth reading up on... it must have all happened quite quickly though because New Edition disappeared for a bit at this time didn't they, when a few of them (including Ralph) went for solo careers. I know they got back together with diminishing returns but no idea which version it was. I thought that there were only 2 versions of the group - pre and post Bobby Brown.
 
Yeah there was a lot of ins and out with them. Three of the founding members made up Bell Big Devoe after the breakups
 
I think with my girls Wilson Phillips, they - like many acts - were artificially inflated by the fact that the US singles chart was around 50% airplay based at the time. They couldn't have been more daytime radio friendly, but realistically I doubt that You're In Love would ever have gotten anywhere near #1 on sales alone (Release Me may have ridden the Hold On momentum as that was obviously a genuine smash).

The second album is their best for my money, but it clearly lacked singles, and they were always going to struggle once radio moved in a more urban direction in as the 90s rolled on.

I'd recommend their cover of Neil Young's Old Man from their 2004 comeback album, which Carnie Wilson really sells quite wonderfully, as well she might given her family history.

 
Yeah there was a lot of ins and out with them. Three of the founding members made up Bell Big Devoe after the breakups

I feel like I should know this! Probably a piece of trivia I've long forgotten. Makes sense though given the timing.
 
Hot 100 definitely favored the adult contemporary pop more so than later in the decade. This is presumably due to the Hot 100 excluding urban/R&B/country formats in its formula still. WP’s #1s (Hold On aside) and others like Promise of a New Day always baffled me a bit.

I always forget “Enjoy the Silence” was only released in the 90s. It fits in so much more with the charts 5 years earlier.
 
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Wilson Phillips were very popular with all the girls at my school. I did Model UN with a girl named Tammy and all we listened to while doing our posters was that album on repeat. Every single time I hear them I think of Burma (now Myanmar)
 
I also didn’t realize (until Funkster mentioned it) that after that first massive album, the second flopped and then they broke up. It felt like they were around forever but that’s probably because that first album was worked for over a year.

I’m listening to the first album again and totally forgot about Impulsive which I quite liked back in the day.
 
This reached #7 for 2 weeks and I don't know it, and I don't care for it. Sounds cheap and unfinished. I thought America was more discerning when it came to R&B...


This song was A MOMENT back in the day. Huge at the skating ring :D

Fun tidbit about her : she was managed by the same guy that had NWA and was signed to their label so she got tangled up in early East Coast/West Coast rap beef and she was mad about it.

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Janet's Alright was the first CD single i bought, and the debut Wilson Phillips album the first CD album.
 
This song was A MOMENT back in the day. Huge at the skating ring :D

Fun tidbit about her : she was managed by the same guy that had NWA and was signed to their label so she got tangled up in early East Coast/West Coast rap beef and she was mad about it.

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She's opened up a lot about the abuse she experienced from Dre. Wendy Williams interviewed her about it at some point.
 

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