The USA: The Trump Years 2.0 (2 Viewers)

The vibe shift is real. Europe is extremely vulnerable now - we are effectively a colony with very little strategic autonomy and have almost no means to withstand what Trump & the oligarchs decide to do. The next decade is going to be... interesting.
 
Jesus. This is going to be absolutely fucking awful. Government sanctioned bigotry. Only ends one way.
 
I'm sure I heard on the radio this morning that he's put the medication prices back up again but I was only half-listening so might have heard wrong.
 
Civil war?
Not just 'civil'. He's signing off from the WHO, leaving the Paris accord, demanding territorial expansion and signing orders against basic human rights. I am genuinely afraid of what Starmer will do to appease him and to prevent being hit with massive trade taraffs because that is going to be Trump's price. We'll spare you if you leave the Paris accord too. We'll spare you if you legislate that there's no such thing as trans people. We'll spare you if you don't intervene when we invade Greenland. Starmer will fold up like a fucking road map.
 
Not just 'civil'. He's signing off from the WHO, leaving the Paris accord, demanding territorial expansion and signing orders against basic human rights. I am genuinely afraid of what Starmer will do to appease him and to prevent being hit with massive trade taraffs because that is going to be Trump's price. We'll spare you if you leave the Paris accord too. We'll spare you if you legislate that there's no such thing as trans people. We'll spare you if you don't intervene when we invade Greenland. Starmer will fold up like a fucking road map.

Thing is, I don't think Trump will give a flying fuck about us and we'll get tarffied to fuck, so ever the eternal optimist I expect us to have to suck off the EU and apologies as we do it.
 
Thing is, I don't think Trump will give a flying fuck about us and we'll get tarffied to fuck, so ever the eternal optimist I expect us to have to suck off the EU and apologies as we do it.
Do we get to choose which Europeans we personally suck off?

Because I quite fancy a lovely DANE
 
I honestly and unapologetically wish ETERNAL HELL on every American who voted for this megalomaniac

This is beyond ignorance and stupidity. It's willful EVIL, and not in a fabulous way.
Yeah, I’m well beyond pretending I give a fuck about ‘understanding’ why people would vote for Trump (or his own brand British equivalent Farage). If you vote for hate, you get hate and fuck you if your life’s worse because of it.
 
We've met a large amount of Americans on our cruise, and I'd say 90% have been awful, pro trump, rude and just downright nasty.

We did meet a lovely American gay couple who hate trump, but they have been the only ones we've liked so far.

Most others have been rude, arrogant, disrespectful and praising trump.
 
This does seem like the inevitable end point of specifically American capitalism, which requires increasingly extreme and desperate ways to sustain itself in order to distract the lower classes from their AWFUL LIVES. Centre left liberalism lost because they can’t actually improve the lives of the American people, they just want to give the system better optics. Trump will inevitably make everyone’s lives worse but the only way it seems possible to both placate and control the masses now seems to be outright FACISM. This probably needs to run it’s course for a decade or two, or until the left is able to mount a creative, credible and radical defence.
 
This probably needs to run it’s course for a decade or two, or until the left is able to mount a creative, credible and radical defence.

This was more relating to other countries, I just don’t think it’s going to work in the USA where individualism and self-sufficiency is so ingrained in the culture. I’m not not really sure they have a way out of this, sorry to my American divas!
 
The crazy thing is Facebook is still filled with THANK DADDY TRUMP WE WILL GET CHEAPER GROCERIES when he’s already said “yeah I really can’t change that”.

He flat out said he loves dumb people for a reason because most of the shit he’s doing is higher level than most Republicans function at.
 
The Americans are going to find out that shit trickles down much faster than wealth.
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(Contain yourself @Lucille)
 
This does seem like the inevitable end point of specifically American capitalism, which requires increasingly extreme and desperate ways to sustain itself in order to distract the lower classes from their AWFUL LIVES. Centre left liberalism lost because they can’t actually improve the lives of the American people, they just want to give the system better optics. Trump will inevitably make everyone’s lives worse but the only way it seems possible to both placate and control the masses now seems to be outright FACISM. This probably needs to run it’s course for a decade or two, or until the left is able to mount a creative, credible and radical defence.

This is it, and when Trump can't stave off the death of capitalism and MERICA FIRST fails because *waves around* THEN WHAT? The American mind can't comprehend anything else.
 
I wonder how much cross over there is between those who were celebrating "Robin Hood" Luigi Mangione and being all angry over the healthcare system, and those who have just voted in the perfect embodiments of ultra capitalism.
 
Now that Trump references the bay of Mexico as the bay of America a lot, watching the news makes me chuckle cause our word for bay and vagina is the same (colpos - hence colposcopy).
 

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