It looks like 14th was the highest we came in any televote - in both Ireland and UkraineDoes 0 mean that no one voted for the UK in the televote??
14th being the highest is a disaster.It looks like 14th was the highest we came in any televote - in both Ireland and Ukraine
Whilst I'm pleased to avoid the bottom 5 overall, I feel like that televote zero outweighs it somewhat...
Or just make sure to have a competent backing singer doubling the lead vocals.'We really must try to find a competent live vocalist again'?
Top or bottom I don't know. Definitely was peak gay, even by ESC standards.Do we think it was "top gay?"
Me too. But y'know, it was what it was.Whilst there’s definitely an argument about putting staging over vocals, I honestly think we have reason to feel a little salty this year when everything else got a televote score.
No country had the UK in their top 10, but it’s conceivable that the UK were still 11th in all countries![]()
I genuinely didn't think he was a great choice from the start because he's such an unreliable live singer. We need a PRO.I said this in the other thread- two years in a row we’ve sent (ok, perhaps arguably) the worst singer in the contest. That’s not going to translate into votes.
The gay staging was a brave move I stand by, but when so many of my friends said things like “I don’t understand why he’s in a dirty bathroom” etc, it clearly just didn’t translate.
I think it’s an absolute shame he got zero- I don’t think it was deserving of that at all- but lessons that weren’t learnt last year must be for next. I just hope these bad results aren’t going to see the BBC revert to their old ways.
Well you could. But I'd say if you're thinking you need to do that, you've chosen the wrong person in the first place.Or just make sure to have a competent backing singer doubling the lead vocals.
Which is also what a lot of people said about Mae Muller, isn't it?Ultimately I think it was just more of a radio song than a competitive Eurovision entry.
Yep. Even 10 would have been fine because there was a lot of very low televote scores.Even if we'd received 30 televote points (which is a huge ask) it would only have bumped him up a couple of places at best so it's not a huge loss.
It's just a shame we didn't get something as that 0 has given the impression he's in the James Newman etc ranks, instead of being seen (by UK standards) as not a total disaster
Eh?I think with hindsight it was just too much gay toilet humour![]()
The zero was a real kick between the legs. But I said before, "video" performances are just that. Very cool, but utterly disengaging.
But I'm glad they did what they did.
Totally agreed - it was the most obvious take away from last year and to let it happen again is sheer incompetence on the part of the delegation.When it comes down to it, Olly’s vocals were APPALLING. Utterly embarrassing for us to do this yet again. I can kind of get it with Mae as we tried something different but for us to do it two years in a row - we need to ditch the team and get in fresh blood.