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No actual ramifications for saying "Hitler was a nice guy who just wanted a pure nation" is pretty unhinged, especially since UFC is so popular with the thicko community.
I mean he got knocked the fuck out
No actual ramifications for saying "Hitler was a nice guy who just wanted a pure nation" is pretty unhinged, especially since UFC is so popular with the thicko community.
there just isn't any education. about why "masculinity" needs to be rethought, about why equality goes way beyond surface level feminism or equal pay, about why don't need to be nasty or without feeling/empathy to be seen as strong, why it matters to change things. we still see male heads of state as strong if they go to war. how do we uncouple violence from this outdated idea of strength?
nothing is happening in the classroom, and any attempts to broach such a vast subject are branded woke and vilified. but at the same time porn is raising generations of young men to think women exist as sex dolls, and the Andrew Tates of the world have a huge platform to "fight back" against any attempt at redefining masculinity.
as with many problems facing society an HONEST CONVERSATION and appraisal about the state of things would be a great place to start - but that's never been less possible than today.
if that is the case though (that education is in place to address what young men are going through) - why are today's young male (gen z) demographic more right wing than the generations before them and consistently voting for populists who themselves embrace toxic masculinity?
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Highly educated young men shift to the right
A shift to the right is expected to happen in the elections to the European Parliament, which will happen this week, on June 6th. Should we prepare for a nationalist, radical right-wing supremacy in Europe? To what extent are young people responsible for this shift? Professor Marcel Lubbers...dub.uu.nl
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It’s not just boomers, young people are voting far right too
Ahead of the European election, striking data shows where Gen Z and millennials’ allegiances lie.www.politico.eu
I mean, sure, but the state has very limited ability to influence how a child is parented, but a lot of influence over how a child is taught. To just say a good parent is all you need abandons those with shit parents, or no parents at allI don't know what people expect out of the education system. Yes, there are vital academic topics that unpack the effects of gender-oppressive societies in great detail, but a fair and just society will ALWAYS start on the individual face-to-face level. Kindness and compassion are not qualities that you can simply mass produce by institutionalizing children. It HAS to start from parents and the immediate community because they have the child during their most impressionable years when their brains are most receptive and 'malleable'. Those first 1000 days of a child's life set the tone for their behaviors, what they perceive as 'normal', and the language they use to interact with other people.
The "education system" as we know it has only existed for 300-400 years. Society does not need, and has never needed, anything more than good parenting to produce respectful, humble, and healthy children. Teachers can absolutely play an significant role in a child's development, but the best it can hope to achieve is supplement and reinforce the behaviors they are already learning from home. What public education CAN'T do is somehow "correct" antisocial or unhealthy behaviors. I think it can help guide the child, but ultimately teachers and social workers don't have the familial bond OR the working capacity to be fully responsible for it.
Then it's people's responsibility to call it out for what it is. We don't have an "education crisis", we have a parenting crisis. ONCE a child receives an upbringing that promotes the right qualities, THEN schooling can start to fortify their development. Until society grows the balls to talk about the failure of parenting, y'all can continue to enjoy boys who objectify girls and girls who pass their traumas onto their children. Since when have people needed the "state" to voice their disapproval with society? If we could draw the courage to start openly talking about sexuality and race, then we absolutely have the courage to do the same thing with parenting.I mean, sure, but the state has very limited ability to influence how a child is parented, but a lot of influence over how a child is taught. To just say a good parent is all you need abandons those with shit parents, or no parents at all
I think we have slightly different ideas of what the state and society are, because I wouldn't really make such a distinction.Since when have people needed the "state" to voice their disapproval with society?
Both of these "tools" are futile if the quality of the parenting is poor. The best tool, and ONLY tool, society will ever need to produce good young men is good parenting, precisely because it's the primary influence on the child's brain development in the first 3-5 years. Everything else is secondary. An advantage, but secondary.through for example the way it educates children or the way it regulates social media.
The same way we initiate change in any other facet of society. We start by not being scared to talk about it. Everybody is terrified of sounding "judgemental" because parenting is a 'private matter' and 'you can't tell someone how to raise their child'. And I fully understand that it's much easier said than done. But we've reached a breaking point where we have to stop skirting around the issue and call out parents when their children are acting like shit stains and start dedicating resources to helping parents do a better job, instead of pouring it all into just the "education system" because that absolutely cannot fix the problem on its own. Not even close.How would you propose changes to parenting happen?
This is really offensive.What a HORRIBLE COUNTRY
Just remind him he's English, that will shut him upThis is really offensive.
It’s fine, Nigel Farage will be prime minister in 2029.GIven that we are sat georgraphically and policitally in between the EU and the USA, it's good that we have a really strong and principled Prime Minister with clear polic...oh. Oh shit.
Don’t think soIt’s fine, Nigel Farage will be prime minister in 2029.
Don't rule it out. Just a couple of political manoeuvres and he'll be there.Don’t think so
England? What a HORRIBLE COUNTRYJust remind him he's English, that will shut him up
The Trump/Russia stuff is already hurting him - he has a vote ceiling as it is and fellating Putin and the orange rapist every chance he gets has lowered that considerably.Don't rule it out. Just a couple of political manoeuvres and he'll be there.
Although I'd like to think more people would be sensible enough to vote tactically to stop him.
I agree but I am a bit optimistic that as a country we chose to go left of centre at this moment in time. Maybe I have more faith in the British public but I think timing has worked well in our favour as a nation in terms of what's unfolding. You can never really predict these things and I accept that; but I do think the Farage bubble has burst in this country...Don't rule it out. Just a couple of political manoeuvres and he'll be there.
Although I'd like to think more people would be sensible enough to vote tactically to stop him.
*likes*England? What a HORRIBLE COUNTRY
Oh these right wing sorts can do an absolute about turn in 30 seconds or less if it fits their needs. I'm sure Farage still has plans to get that 100m.Farage may have personally fallen out of favour with Musk, but he absolutely will still benefit from the almost inevitable right wing swing.
I think we're at risk of underestimating the extent to which people leant Labour their vote because the Tories had to go. The opinion polls had them in the mid-high 40s which slowly ebbed as the campaign went on and, on the night, they polled a little over a third of the vote. From that starting point and early predicitions of historic results and Tory wipeouts, that was pretty shit. Scotland is over them already, as the opinion polls will show you. A crap Labour government will leave it wide open for a far right Tory/Reform coalition and that's what I see happening at the moment.
Oh these right wing sorts can do an absolute about turn in 30 seconds or less if it fits their needs. I'm sure Farage still has plans to get that 100m.
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