United Kingdom 2024: Olly Alexander - Dizzy (1 Viewer)

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It brings me NO PLEASURE to have to say this, but I think we may need to have to send for LUCY SPRAGGAN :(
 
I do think the analysis of his vocals on here is a bit of an exaggeration. He's a good singer and he was in tune, he just doesn't really project and was weaker than most of the others. I think Ellie's right in saying that someone from musical theatre would be a good shout, a la Lucie but with a better song.
 
Was he in tune though? He was better at the end, but it sounds to me like he missed the very first held note at the end of the opening line.
 
I thought he was - there might have been a couple of shakey points cause he riffs so much but it was a good vocal. It just wasn't the kind of vocal that works for Eurovision, and the song doesn't really go anywhere to make up for the lack of drama in his vocal.
 
The concern over Olly’s vocals are valid because he is known to be fairly unreliable in that department and there is no getting around the fact he has turned in some pretty poor efforts in the run-up (particularly the first semi-final performance that went out).

However his vocal on Saturday was perfectly fine and unlike Mae, certainly not what I’d use as an excuse for his poor public vote. His vocal on the Friday jury show was by far the best he has performed it, and actually one of the best vocals I’ve seen him give in his career without any pitch correction, so that probably saved us from the very bottom at least.
 
Apparently there were some issues with Olly's mic or in-ears.
There’s been a lot of ‘bad luck’ relating to his performances recently. Quite the coincidence.

I think what it all boils down to is that overall he’s just not a very good vocalist full stop. He has a weak and reedy voice and I have to disagree with @Pingu in that I do think his vocals played a part in his nul points. Not the major factor, but combined with the uncompetitive song, and the off putting staging, the whole thing was a disaster. Not quite on Mae levels but not far off it.
 
Not the major factor, but combined with the uncompetitive song, and the off putting staging, the whole thing was a disaster. Not quite on Mae levels but not far off it.

That's a reasonably fair assessment. Most of the comments/critiques of various aspects of Dizzy have been valid. Essentially, my take is that it was a combination of factors - none of which in isolation were anywhere near as bad as some of our recent misdemeanours - but added up, they became just as bad. I'm not sure changing any one thing (vocals, staging, song) would have significantly affected the overall outcome. The whole package was misjudged.

That said, I probably still appreciate that we failed as a result of trying something different and it being a cumulative Swiss cheese effect.
 
The more time goes by, the more I think it's obvious the really quite off-putting PERFORMANCE was the issue
 
His vocals in the Final was decent but not one that would make anyone pick up their phone and vote. Going for a high energy performance and advanced staging was the right choice.


I’ve just listened again. I cannot agree that these are decent vocals. Outside of the last 30 seconds, they are shockingly bad.
 
He doesn't have great support or dynamics fo his voice, and they probably should have amped up the backing vocals to make him sound better but I still don't think they're that bad. The semi was very shakey pitch wise. This was just a bit weak compared to everything else.

But hey ho.
 
I never cared for Olly and I totally despised him in his duet with Kylie.
Yet, after watching this performance and some bits of his interviews, I've come to really appreciate him.
 
I’ve just listened again. I cannot agree that these are decent vocals. Outside of the last 30 seconds, they are shockingly bad.

Wow! Just listened back again too and it's MUCH worse than I thought it was on the night. He fucks up from the very first line. I can't imagine having a profession that I'm so shit at.
 
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Don't know if this was posted already, the closest Olly was to get some televote points was from Ireland and Ukraine (14th) and furthest was from Albania (25th).
 
I never cared for Olly and I totally despised him in his duet with Kylie.
Yet, after watching this performance and some bits of his interviews, I've come to really appreciate him.
There's a lot to like about HIM. I've said before I think he's a good performer, and very charismatic. And I really like him in interviews.

The frustration is that finding someone who can deliver vocally should be at the top of the most fundamental criteria which is considered when choosing the act. The UK has seen evidence of it.

I fully accept that his vocal wasn't the only factor that led to those zero points from the public, that said.
 
I imagine he’s by some distance the biggest name to actively want the gig in some time. That plus the production pedigree was probably enough to override any fears about his vocal consistency.

Let’s be honest, if we’d sent a Mae Muller level name with a strong voice and a mid song that finished 15th, and we heard we could have sent Olly Alexander with a song by Dua Lipa’s producer, we’d probably be calling for heads to roll at the BBC right now.
 
I imagine he’s by some distance the biggest name to actively want the gig in some time. That plus the production pedigree was probably enough to override any fears about his vocal consistency.

Let’s be honest, if we’d sent a Mae Muller level name with a strong voice and a mid song that finished 15th, and we heard we could have sent Olly Alexander with a song by Dua Lipa’s producer, we’d probably be calling for heads to roll at the BBC right now.
Almost certainly true - although it's also the case that plenty of people questioned his vocal ability from the very start.
 
Absolutely, I was one of them!

But on balance I think the decision to send him makes total sense. It just didn’t work unfortunately.

Anyway I still think the song was a bigger issue than the performance. It just didn’t grab. Hence its UK chart failure.

If you go back to the posts from the day Dizzy dropped, you can see how the vast majority of us are really having to talk ourselves into liking it. :D
 
I think the song may have been the bigger issue as you say - I Wrote A Song clearly seemed to connect more with the public, although that had the benefit of the hype of the UK hosting, if not the hype of Olly's level of fame.

But even if it was the bigger issue, the UK still chose to send someone with his vocal prowess. That is for me, a fundamental flaw in approach on our part.
 
Do we know how the selection process worked? Was Olly in place before the song was chosen, or did it come as a package? I'm assuming it wasn't song first.
 
But even if it was the bigger issue, the UK still chose to send someone with his vocal prowess. That is for me, a fundamental flaw in approach on our part.
Agreed. Until this becomes the most important factor, this will continue to happen, regardless of good the song might be.
 
Do we know how the selection process worked? Was Olly in place before the song was chosen, or did it come as a package? I'm assuming it wasn't song first.
Olly submitted a few songs (all of which were Danny L Harle productions), as did some other artists. Some had been approached by the BBC and others made the approach themselves. He apparently was not the only act on the shortlist who has had UK number one singles or albums.

Essentially a focus group made up of BBC Music, BBC Entertainment, record industry sorts etc made the decision and it was fairly clear cut in favour of Dizzy (although I suppose they would say that).
 
Do we know how the selection process worked? Was Olly in place before the song was chosen, or did it come as a package? I'm assuming it wasn't song first.
If I recall correctly, Olly's selection process didn't finalise before the song choice. I do remember hearing that he was approached and interested the same year as Sam Ryder but either pulled out or was declined due to lack of a suitable song. This year he had a lot of his own material ready to choose from. They had some sort of meeting with ESC producers and his own label where they listened through a bunch of songs. Dizzy was the one which stood out.
 
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