Eurovision 2024: Grand Final (8pm BST Sat) (1 Viewer)

[ZenGiraffe]

The ebu has been getting increasingly crazy over the years. It's just full blown madness now. Yesterday they snatched a non binary flag from someone and an eu flag from someone else cause they were political.

Nemo had to sneak theirs on for the flag parade because they were told it wasn't allowed

 

[Ill Advised]

Probably already posted

 

[auretz]

In fairly random news, Aiko from Czechia and one of Megara (San Marino) appear to be in a relationship



Not sure how this compares to the Blas Cantó/Gjon’s Tears fling of ‘21

 

[lolly]

I don't remember if I mentioned this last night through the general chaos and novelty gin fuelled haze, but where was Måns? It seems so odd that he got nothing when all the other winners were there.

 

[Lucille]

Stuck in Croydon re-grouting his downstairs loo I imagine.

 

[dmlaw]

My Mum has confirmed that her favourites from the show were Cyprus and Croatia. She does admit to having fallen asleep for some of the first half, before being woken up by Bambie, which must have been a bit of a shock.

 

[Ill Advised]

I don't remember if I mentioned this last night through the general chaos and novelty gin fuelled haze, but where was Måns? It seems so odd that he got nothing when all the other winners were there.

I was thinking the same

 

[Ill Advised]

Moopyvision is going to be tough to call this year

 

[Kaleen]

The ebu has been getting increasingly crazy over the years. It's just full blown madness now. Yesterday they snatched a non binary flag from someone and an eu flag from someone else cause they were political.

The rules are flags of competing nations and rainbow flags only. I guess after incidents with Hatari and Iveta they are cracking down heavily.

 

[Tisch]

The rules are flags of competing nations and rainbow flags only. I guess after incidents with Hatari and Iveta they are cracking down heavily.

Systur had trans flags, was that technically not allowed? I'd argue if rainbow flags are allowed that should include ALL the spectrum

 

[Kaleen]

Systur had trans flags, was that technically not allowed? I'd argue if rainbow flags are allowed that should include ALL the spectrum

I agree. The trans flag is pretty well known though, maybe the issue is that someone mistook the non-binary flag for something else. It’s quite a new flag.

 

[auretz]

Bambie had the trans flag too, as did Hera I think? I’m guessing they just didn’t recognise the non-binary flag

 

[lolly]

If they are going to have a rule about flags, they ought to have an up to date knowledge of them, or else it's pretty pointless.

 

[auretz]

It’d probably be quicker to just train them on the few flags they have an issue with - I’m imagining they don’t really care about non-binary or some Swiss canton or Tuvalu. Although I disagree with the rule altogether - I mean, don’t bring in an ISIS flag or similar but other than that

 

[AGinAg (39)]

Was there anything worth reporting from the press conference or was it just the winner?

 

[lolly]

If we had this, I missed it



YAY

 

[lolly]

Oh and this one

 

[Marina Salty]

The rules are flags of competing nations and rainbow flags only. I guess after incidents with Hatari and Iveta they are cracking down heavily.

It's not as if they're the ten commandments of Moses tho, surely it calls for an update when they're this silly

 

[Kaleen]

It’d probably be quicker to just train them on the few flags they have an issue with - I’m imagining they don’t really care about non-binary or some Swiss canton or Tuvalu. Although I disagree with the rule altogether - I mean, don’t bring in an ISIS flag or similar but other than that

I guess it’s easier to make a blanket ban rather than a list of banned flags. Palestine for example would only upset Israel and I can’t imagine many others apart from Serbia being bothered about Kosovo. Although I’ve just read about 10 of the current Eurovision countries don’t recognise Kosovo, so that will be interesting if they end up taking part within the next few years.

 

[Lucille]

Oh and this one

It never used to be like this!

 

[VoR]

Surely a generalised position that any political statements by contestants are the responsibility of the respective broadcasters/delegations and in no way reflect the views of the EBU would be more practical than this futile effort at clamping down.

 

[Marina Salty]

It never used to be like this!

We need a thread to treasure all the highly sexual entries in all their glory

 

[dmlaw]

They do make some good points about the effect of sexualised performances at Eurovision on children. I’ve been watching since the 1990 contest, when I was seven years old, and the raw animal sexuality of Eurocat has warped my understanding of adult relationships.

 

[Kaleen]

There is a little bit of a fuss against Graham Norton who apparently misgendered both Bambie and Nemo multiple times throughout the show. I’m sure it was just a mistake but for it to happen numerous times is both sloppy and disrespectful.

 

[ZenGiraffe]

There is a little bit of a fuss against Graham Norton who apparently misgendered both Bambie and Nemo multiple times throughout the show. I’m sure it was just a mistake but for it to happen numerous times is both sloppy and disrespectful.

I noticed during Bambie Thug he kept switching between she and they. It definitely wasn't mean spirited, just DODDERY OLD MAN

 

[lolly]

There is a little bit of a fuss against Graham Norton who apparently misgendered both Bambie and Nemo multiple times throughout the show. I’m sure it was just a mistake but for it to happen numerous times is both sloppy and disrespectful.

And on the BBC news immediately afterwards.

 

[Kratz]

Not sure how this compares to the Blas Cantó/Gjon’s Tears fling of ‘21

Blas had ghosted Gjon before he’d even withdrawn.

 

[Lucille]

Blas had ghosted Gjon before he’d even withdrawn.

So cruel, especially after wiping his nob on Gjon’s LOVELY BLOUSE.

 

[Ellie]

From Mum

Confirmed the OMG was Ireland and the FFS was Armenia.

 

[D5K]

I see Eurovision have uploaded all of the interval songs to Youtube but for some reason have left out "You're Good To Go" (which was way better than I'd expected) - are they just terrified of the Youtube comments they'd get?

 

[ZenGiraffe]

EU also pissed

 

[ZenGiraffe]

Having seen their results, I wonder if they regret not jumping.

 

[win_the_game]

Weak statement from the EBU:

 

[Lucille]

No established artist is going anywhere near this next year are they?

 

[auretz]

No established artist is going anywhere near this next year are they?

Looking forward to a contest where Twin Flame writes every country's entry

 

[Marina Salty]

Weak statement from the EBU:

If the values of the event is to enforce behaving like some sort of vegetable, I prefer for the artists to disrespect them.

 

[Sheena]

Weak statement from the EBU:

But still ZERO acknowledgment of anyone other than Joost. Despite loads of artists saying it’s been Israel’s shit show.

 

[Marina Salty]

I think the ending is a veiled threat/warning to every delegation who displeased them by having an opinion.

 

[win_the_game]

Yes the line about respecting the rules during the broadcasts seems to be aimed more at Portugal, Ireland etc. for speaking out. And no recognition of why they did.

Clearly they've learned nothing and will double down on the importance of being apolitical.

 

[ZZ]

The mere fact that they get to dictate what someone can or not say/show/wear etc is in itself political.
They'd only be "apolitical" if the contest was done behind closed doors, without an audience, on the radio and defining a theme from which no one could deviate.
Sort of like an ASFM.