Eurovision 2024: Malmö Arena (1 Viewer)

I heard Petra called Sanna ‘a snek and probably a bit of a slag’

Any truth?
 
Pingu said:
Are we really ruling out all of these people who have shows on other channels?
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It's not completely ruled out but the most high profile presenters have non-compete clauses that if they break them they would 1) loose their contract with their original employer and 2) have to compensate their original employer financially.

Now one should remember that even though TV4 has a significantly lower viewer share, they are paying the highest TV salaries in Sweden while their hosts are also able to to do more lucrative side hustles than their SVT counterparts. That's why hosts often starts off at SVT only to jump ship to one of the commercial channels once they're well established. It rarely goes the other way around.

David Hellenius (from an original trio with Christine Meltzer) and Carina Berg (ex wife of Kristian Luuk, seen when Björn Gustavsson proclaims his love for her in a mellanakt) are two presenters that were definitely prevented from hosting Melodifestivalen in the past. I would guess the same applies for Lotta Engberg throughout the 2000s (she's been one of the highest-grossing hosts in Sweden for decades). Mede was prevented from hosting finalen with Måns in 2021.

Now, this could all be worked out if there's enough good will between the two companies and the host in question. Pernilla Wahlgren just managed to solve things in the nick of time with Kanal 5 and SVT for hosting a single show in 2021. These troubles were evidenced by the fact that her papers were only signed in January of the same year when presenter contracts are usually written during the summer with announcements coming in the fall. But even then Wahlgren is technically not a presenter at her original channel and also the dorkier Swedish counterpart to Kris Jenner; someone Kanal 5 cannot afford to loose.
 
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Kratz said:
I heard Petra called Sanna ‘a snek and probably a bit of a slag’

Any truth?
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Definitely. Sanna's longterm mission of supplanting Petra in every way, shape and form is all too obvious.

Despite being in the prime of her life and looking younger for every passing year, Sanna recently began demanding to be wheeled around in a frickin' spak chariot backstage, rumours circulating about some mysteriously obscure complications during her latest childbirth.


Sanna 2003 - Singing "The Whole World For Me"
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Sanna 2023 - Still young, giving out apples
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Mede 2003 - Doing ballet unhindered
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Mede 2023 - Broken, lamenting being replaced
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The one think speaking against Sanna is that she's not the optimal pairing with Måns.

SVT usually opts for a dynamic duo consisting of at least one comedian or tabloid celebrity as the eccentric contrasting a professional singer or presenter playing the straight guy.
 
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Hak said:
The one think speaking against Sanna is that she's not the optimal pairing with Måns.

SVT usually opts for a dynamic duo consisting of at least one comedian or tabloid celebrity as the eccentric contrasting a professional singer or presenter playing the straight guy.
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That’s for Melodifestivalen though. I think Eurovision is a different ball game.

You still haven’t said why not Farah. She certainly proved her skills when the stage was invaded during Loreen’s performance and she had to keep things going.
 
KaLa Zarra said:
That’s for Melodifestivalen though. I think Eurovision is a different ball game.

You still haven’t said why not Farah. She certainly proved her skills when the stage was invaded during Loreen’s performance and she had to keep things going.
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Farah is a possibility.
 
Yes I liked both of Gjon’s entries. And to be fair Watergun was a big step up from the excreble Boys Don’t Cry.

But yeah it’s definitely due time for Switzerland to send a woman again. Or failing that, at least someone with a bit of energy.
 
Cities who have notified interest in hosting:

City (arena capacity)
Solna (65 000)
Stockholm (40 000)
Malmö (15 500)
Göteborg (14 000)
Sandviken (10 000)
Örnsköldsvik (9 800)
Jönköping (7 000)
Partille (5 500)
Eskilstuna (5 000)
 
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Kazakhstan have pulled out of Junior Eurovision (probably due to cost) so it's even less likely we'll see them at Eurovision now.
 
Solna is essentially a suburb of Stockholm, isn't it?
 
lolly said:
Solna is essentially a suburb of Stockholm, isn't it?
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Yes, a bit to the north. Half an hour of commuting from central Stockholm. It's the capitols largest arena and coincidentally where the Melfest final has been held for the last couple of years.
 
Hak said:
Yes, a bit to the north. Half an hour of commuting from central Stockholm. It's the capitols largest arena and coincidentally where the Melfest final has been held for the last couple of years.
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So you're saying if they go with Friends Arena, it'll be branded as Eurovision 2024, Solna? OK cool.
 
Hak said:
Yes, a bit to the north. Half an hour of commuting from central Stockholm. It's the capitols largest arena and coincidentally where the Melfest final has been held for the last couple of years.
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I’ve been there three times and never realised it wasn’t just part of central Stockholm :D
 
All jury members to be vetted for PRO-SWEDE SENTIMENT, links to Benny and Björn, and membership of wetlands-related extremist movements.
 
I'm happy Loreen got her win, obviously, but now that's done I do think a recalibration of the jury would, on balance, provide more positive than negative outcomes.
 
VoR said:
I'm happy Loreen got her win, obviously, but now that's done I do think a recalibration of the jury would, on balance, provide more positive than negative outcomes.
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How would you recalibrate them?

I'd be all for larger juries to give the results a bit more credibility, but I think people suggesting 10, 16 or even 20-person juries are living in a bit of a dream world in terms of practicality and how much difference it would actually make.
 
I would be happy with either a changing of the criteria to discourage voting purely on which act does the most singing (hello Estonia), or weighting them down slightly to 33/66 or even 40/60.

Again, thrilled for Loreen and she was in the right winner in a lot of ways, but in a broader sense I don't know how healthy it is if an overwhelming televote favourite can be routinely hobbled like that.
 
It’d be hilarious if the televote was given more weight in the final and Norway then goes on to do better in the juries next year.
 
VoR said:
I would be happy with either a changing of the criteria to discourage voting purely on which act does the most singing (hello Estonia), or weighting them down slightly to 33/66 or even 40/60.

Again, thrilled for Loreen and she was in the right winner in a lot of ways, but in a broader sense I don't know how healthy it is if an overwhelming televote favourite can be routinely hobbled like that.
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Hardly routinely.

I agree it's not a bad idea to refine the criteria a bit or just make sure it's laid out so that a powerhouse vocal can't override everything else, but if you're basically wanting a weighting that makes sure the jury can't overrule the public then what you're really looking for is 100-0.

I also wouldn't mind juries just voting for their top ten as opposed to doing a full ranking so that a rogue juror can't affect a country's score by tanking it.

Overall though I think this ongoing reaction to a result that could always have happened in theory and isn't even that extreme is utterly ridiculous.
 
VoR said:
Again, thrilled for Loreen and she was in the right winner in a lot of ways, but in a broader sense I don't know how healthy it is if an overwhelming televote favourite can be routinely hobbled like that.
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Can I ask whether you applied this logic to the 2008 Melodifestivalen result because I have picture and video evidence of you saying things about Sanna Nielsen that are so shocking that I can’t even type them out
 
VoR said:
Again, thrilled for Loreen and she was in the right winner in a lot of ways, but in a broader sense I don't know how healthy it is if an overwhelming televote favourite can be routinely hobbled like that.
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Oh, don't be so dramatic.

That is my thing and if you take it away from me I will kill myself. AND THEN YOU.
 
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