MOTHERFESTIVALEN 2023: Deltävling 4 (Malmö) - ft. Lorraine (sp?)

Hak said:
Loreen got a firm "NO :oi:" for using fake snow from the ceiling in 2012 as it would take an entire ad break to sweep it off stage before the next contestant. The ESC producers were planning to use snow effects on the leads instead. Team Bjorkmother managed to convince the producer with the words, "what, you're producing the greatest TV show on earth and you cannot manage what's done in a small country's national selection?".

The ESC producers were furious but by next morning Loreen had gotten the snow she wanted and this money shot:
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Unless they magic Christer back I can't see the Swedish delegation being that persuasive any more.
 
D5K said:
Unless they magic Christer back I can't see the Swedish delegation being that persuasive any more.
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I can't see the BBC/Eurovision organisers in 2023 being as foot down "NO" to everything that's a light challenge as they probably were in 2012.
 
The hype behind Kiana to go direkt at the moment feels like a proper through the looking glass moment - very "Tamar...have you WATCHED THE SHOW?". Someone performs a house banger competently for once and people think everyone over 40 is suddenly going to be picking up their phones for it in this lineup?!
 
Hak said:
Well, I watched Eurovision: You Decide a few years back and it wasn't exactly satisfactory production wise :(
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Yes you may have noticed some changes to the BBC's Eurovision approach since then.
 
I suspect we still haven't heard the peak of the Loreen song for it to be getting the hype that it's been getting, because I don't think everyone stanning it is that easily bought.
 
Hak said:
I though the reason behind UK's disastrous results the last two decades was Brexit and that the BBC sucked.

I'm obviously mistaken, they just didn't give a fuck.
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Yeah, the BBC sucked in its approach to Eurovision, but there were a lot of reasons behind that - partly that they just didn't give a fuck and that there wasn't the buy-in from the needed people (be they artists, labels or producers) for it to do well. The issue was never that the BBC was technically incapable of doing things well. If anything, that was what made it all so much more frustrating.
 
Hak said:
I though the reason behind UK's disastrous results the last two decades was Brexit and that the BBC sucked.

I'm obviously mistaken, they just didn't give a fuck.
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It's the latter more than "the BBC sucked". They just didn't know how to handle it in a country where the reputation of Eurovision has always been as a joke, thanks to our commentary, and therefore none of our major artists will (would) come near it.

The BBC is the greatest and most respected broadcaster in the world, and is more than capable of putting a show on properly.
 
Sheena said:
I don't think there was at all, but then there wasn't Twitter really, was there?
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Given places like Moopy and online forums WERE the Twitter of 06/08, I'm entirely of the view there was massive hype for both Carola and Charlotte Perrelli online in 06 and 08.
 
Penelope said:
Given places like Moopy and online forums WERE the Twitter of 06/08, I'm entirely of the view there was massive hype for both Carola and Charlotte Perrelli online in 06 and 08.
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Babe, you don't need to tell me- I WAS THERE. But I don't remember the HYPERBOLE being QUITE this ridiculous

No one was talking about Evighet or Hero as being instant winners of Eurovision, for example. I'm also not sure ANYONE was convinced either was a 100% MF certainty either. And let's face it, neither were landslide victories in their year...
 
Sheena said:
Babe, you don't need to tell me- I WAS THERE. But I don't remember the HYPERBOLE being QUITE this ridiculous

No one was talking about Evighet or Hero as being instant winners of Eurovision, for example. I'm also not sure ANYONE was convinced either was a 100% MF certainty either. And let's face it, neither were landslide victories in their year...
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We are all MUCH more unhinged these days too, of course 😍

(also I'm pretty sure that heat 4/final 08 thread have plenty of people calling Charlotte to win the whole thing!)
 
Actually it would be funnier for Marrett to go through to the Losers Lounge and then flop out there, so 🙏 for that on Saturday.
 
Penelope said:
We are all MUCH more unhinged these days too, of course 😍

(also I'm pretty sure that heat 4/final 08 thread have plenty of people calling Charlotte to win the whole thing!)
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Oh I agree on the first part- that's my POINT! :D

And yeah, loads of people thought she had a chance of winning. I still remember my utter astonishment when she limped home 16th or whatever it was. But it wasn't basically giving her the contest like everyone is with MOTHER LOREEN right now :D
 
I do think another part of it is also that 2023 doesn't look like a hugely competitive contest as it stands - there've been mutters that maybe the Czechs could do it or whatever, but I think this is mostly people responding to the first thing so far this season that feels like it's come with serious AMBITION to take the crown home, whereas I'm guessing by The Charlotte Point in 2008 we'd already had one or two contenders out by then
 
Lucille said:
Can someone please photoshop Loreen into my George Santos avatar?
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Sheena said:
Oh I agree on the first part- that's my POINT! :D

And yeah, loads of people thought she had a chance of winning. I still remember my utter astonishment when she limped home 16th or whatever it was. But it wasn't basically giving her the contest like everyone is with MOTHER LOREEN right now :D
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To be fair Charlotte wasn't exactly running away with things when just managing to scrape by the win in 1989 either. It's on a whole other level when the ESC MOTHER GOAT RETURNS TO BRING DOWN JUDGEMENT ON EVERYONE :disco:
 
Penelope said:
I do think another part of it is also that 2023 doesn't look like a hugely competitive contest as it stands - there've been mutters that maybe the Czechs could do it or whatever, but I think this is mostly people responding to the first thing so far this season that feels like it's come with serious AMBITION to take the crown home, whereas I'm guessing by The Charlotte Point in 2008 we'd already had one or two contenders out by then
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Which was again, kind of my point :D
 
Hak said:
To be fair Charlotte wasn't exactly running away with things when just managing to scrape by the win in 1989 either. It's on a whole other level when the ESC MOTHER GOAT RETURNS TO BRING DOWN JUDGEMENT ON EVERYONE :disco:
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Also Carola.

But also very different times and voting patterns.
 
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